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welcome to skeptic oh where we explore

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controversial science and spirituality

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with leading researchers thinkers and

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their critics on this episode I have an

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interview coming up with dr. Courtney

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Brown a very well-known and important

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person inside the remote viewing

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community and I'm assuming you all know

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the basics of remote viewing that is

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this ability to be psychic in a way that

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the military first used for espionage

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purposes but now people claim to be able

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to use for all sorts of reasons you can

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go in the past and see what really

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happened in the JFK assassination or or

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on 9/11 which are both projects by the

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way that dr. Courtney Brown has carried

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out as part of his Farsight Institute or

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as some claim you can even look into the

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future you can forecast Bitcoin another

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thing that dr. Courtney Brown has done

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so that's what remote viewing claims do

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there's many people who do it Courtney

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Brown is one person who's kind of broken

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off from the group of military remote

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viewers that did this for the government

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he started out with that training but

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kind of taken it to a whole other level

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and that's partly because his background

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as you'll see dr. Brown is also a very

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respected professor in the kind of

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mainstream academic way at Emory

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University where he really again is kind

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of pioneered some research into advanced

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nonlinear statistical and dynamic

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modeling I say that as if I know what it

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means but he's quite accomplished he's

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an actor and local theatre there in

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Atlanta and really beyond Atlanta he's

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an illustrator and quite an interesting

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guy in a number of ways that I hope will

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break down in this upcoming interview

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but before we get there I thought I

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might offer a bit of a remote viewing

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primer or skeptic Oh style since I've

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been looking at this field for a long

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time and reporting on it on this show

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and really just trying to figure it out

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and reporting to you what I found I

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thought I might share some clips from

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previous episodes and try and tie those

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together in a way that might set the

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stage for some of the questions I have

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for Courtney so let me start here

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it's a clip from an interview I did a

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couple years back with Lloyd

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Auerbach it was quite an interesting guy

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on his own paranormal researcher author

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and in particular an author of a book

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titled ESP Wars east and west it is true

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that that we got involved in this partly

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because of fear that the Russians were

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getting somewhere they had been spending

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effectively billions of dollars from the

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60s onward there's an indication that

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part of how they even got involved in

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this interestingly enough is because we

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released intelligence that we were doing

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testing with we were actually we're not

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doing in the early 60s that scared the

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Russians into spending money and going

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in that direction the idea being that

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this rumor that we would put out there

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to the Soviets would actually get them

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on a path of dead end they'd spend money

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and time and energy on something that

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was that according to our experts

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probably had no validation whatsoever

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and then we start hearing things from

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the Soviet Union apparently that they

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were having success so this is one part

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of the remote-viewing story that we can

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hang our hat on and that is that at the

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end of the day remote viewing is really

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just being psychic right I mean it's

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just doing the stuff that psychics do

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and things that are non-local but that

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they have some ability to perceive so if

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remote viewing is really about a

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different way of being psychic then I

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think we can start to understand why

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government intelligence agencies CIA dia

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CIA's intelligence agencies why they

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might be interested in the ability to

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spy on somebody psychically

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I mean there's some awesome advantages

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to that which you can immediately

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understand right one is you're not going

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to risk being caught or at least you're

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not going to risk it as much there's all

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sorts of questions about whether you

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could tell if someone was trying to

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psychically spy on you but leaving that

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I mean it's completely clandestine

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spying and number two from a just

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logistics standpoint it's fantastic it's

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we can sit Joe mechanical down who

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happens to be psychic spy number zero

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zero one but we'll get to that in a

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and we can say Joe go in your psychic

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consciousness and view this submarine

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base in Russia and tell us what's going

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on there which he did and there's some

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amazing drawings of what he was able to

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psychically receive and give to the

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handlers who were asking for that

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information so that part of it is what

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we generally understand as remote

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viewing that is being psychic in a way

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that these intelligence agencies wanted

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people to be psychic and a lot of that

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research is often connected to Stanford

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Research Institute SR I helped put off

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Russell Targ to the guys who are most

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often mentioned in connection with that

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research and by the way in case you

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don't know I mean these two guys are

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really really accomplished scientist in

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their own fields their world known and

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highly respected and then their careers

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kind of took this other direction as

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they got pulled into all these crazy

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projects with Stanford Research

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Institute which you know every time I

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say this stuff I kind of hesitate

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because I know like 1/10 of the story

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here and every time you talk to someone

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who was there and knows more about it

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they give you another side of the story

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for example we were at the SSRI

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cafeteria you know having having lunch

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and a big round table and Geller was

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across the table from me and you know

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suddenly says I want to do an experiment

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with you Jacque so this is a great story

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and you'll hear the whole thing in this

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interview but let me cut to the chase so

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Geller instructs Valais how to do this

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little experiment and it works so they

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take the next step

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they're right there in the SR ihcafe

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which kind of blows me away I mean

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they go well what that we have some

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envelopes left over from the experiment

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we were just running let's use one of

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those see what happens I'm going to send

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it in two things I'm going to send the

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whale change the century of fish I know

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a whale isn't the finish but you know

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I'm going to send the watershed that I

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see through the window Geller said all

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of a sudden he was all business

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he took his pencil and he drew something

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and he says look I'm going to draw it

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thing I'm getting two things I'm getting

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the fish and then I'm getting a water

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jet so he drew the two things he didn't

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draw the target there was no way he

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could have known that I did not send him

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the target I sent him two things that I

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made up and that's what he got that's

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impromptu experiment with Uri Geller now

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hurry Geller is such another interesting

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figure that kind of is on the side of

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this but takes this story in another

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different direction that I thought would

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be interesting and we might even ask

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comment on some of this history but here

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goes here's the connection with

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irregular in episode 370 of skeptical

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malossi who's making a documentary about

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aundrea Padraic who was loosely

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connected with the MK ULTRA program

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because he was a professor at

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Northwestern University at the time and

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they were doing all sorts of things and

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to find psychics and he goes over to

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Israel and he finds this amazing psychic

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Uri Geller who is known to Israeli

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intelligence that is the Mossad but

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nonetheless finds Geller introduces him

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and then they're off doing this psychic

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stuff again remember they're tasked with

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psychic spying because it's kind of a

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good thing but now the connection here

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with MKULTRA and it's a loose connection

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folks I'm not trying to make it more

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than it is but I don't want to make it

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less than it is because there is this

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whole movement at this time to try and

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understand utilize operationalize dare I

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say weaponize extended consciousness and

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it's all part of that so dr. Russell

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anything with MKULTRA and maybe he

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wasn't or maybe he wasn't knowingly

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doing it but I think we can find those

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connections there and I think that's

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interesting and the other thing about

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that story that's interesting is we all

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know Jacques Vallee we trust Jacque

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ballet he's a smart guy if he sat there

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in the cafeteria and irregular was able

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to do that then that means something and

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Geller could do all this stuff because

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Targ and Puthoff tested them and it's

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not that hard to test somebody and if

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you go back and watch the videos that

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of the tests they did you can see that

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number one the protocol for those tests

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is not that hard these scientists are

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more than capable of carrying out those

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tests so the only conclusion we can come

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to is that all this stuff was really

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happening at s RI during the 70s and the

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80s and the 90s which is again if you're

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just open minded and fair-minded is

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established fact at this point despite

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what you might read on Wikipedia but

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there's really another story to tell

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here and that story is best teed up by

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yet another skeptic Oh clip what happens

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is Wilbur Smith is running the Canadian

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government and then they call the Flying

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Saucer program so he's the top guy for

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the department transport he goes to the

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Americans and he goes through there and

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according to according to what Wilbur

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Smith writes his document and says we've

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talked to American officials and they

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have told us the following items flying

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saucers exist so most highly classified

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subject in United States rated two

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points higher than the hydrogen bomb

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it's of tremendous significance to the

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Americans and there's a small group

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headed by dr. Vannevar Bush he's running

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the program and then this thing which I

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wouldn't realize until 2012 was the next

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flying saucers such as mental phenomena

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do you have a contact these experiencers

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abductees all these people are talking

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about these aliens being telepathic but

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in 1950 the first abductees would not be

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known until Betty and Barney Hills came

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a book came out in the mid 1960s the

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first contactees who said you know

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they've got provides on flying saucers

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and stuff like would not appear until

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about a week after the detonation of the

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hydrogen bomb suddenly all these people

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appear but in 1950 there was nobody in

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the public who was saying I'm talking to

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aliens and aliens are telepathic then of

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course is UFO researcher grant Cameron

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who you may know if you've listened to

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this show for very long and he's talking

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about I think this very very important

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piece of history which is the Wilbert

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Smith memo and the one thing I would add

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to what grant just said is that if we

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look at the Wilbert Smith memo in light

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of this larger umbrella of MKULTRA and

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this interest in consciousness mind kind

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of stuff which also ties into the

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interest in remote viewing and Marie

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Geller kind of stuff and if you put that

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in a further context of the present day

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disclosure movement where the New York

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Times is telling us yes UFOs are real

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here's the video that the Defense

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Department has released if we put it in

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that context it puts a little bit of a

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different spin on the Wilbert Smith may

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because any lingering doubts we may have

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had about the authenticity of that memo

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really have to be put aside I mean we

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are in a post disclosure world so how

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could we even imagine that that document

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isn't genuine so that'll fill in some of

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the background of remote viewing but it

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won't quite get us to the point that I

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want to get to in this upcoming

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interview with dr. Courtney brown

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because there's one other clip I want to

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play for you and it's the bridge to the

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larger questions about what remote

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viewing means here's the clip so when I

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started my interview what I came to find

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out was that they had opened a package

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that was inserted in my mighty 201 file

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my personnel file what had happened

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after my NDE is all of the all of these

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psychiatric reports and all of the final

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assessments as to what my experience was

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had been put into a permanently sealed

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file with a red stripe across it and it

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said not to be open except by commander

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of the Intelligence and Security Command

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and when they obtained my file what they

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did is that was the first thing that

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that lieutenant he was a lieutenant at

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the time lieutenant Atwater opened was

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that was that file and they were very

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pleased to find that I had had this this

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experience in 1970 because it meant that

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I was one of those special people that

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historically were able to probably do

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exactly what they were looking for this

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is an important story an important bit

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of history and it's so controversial

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that even Edie Mae who I interviewed on

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this show and was running the Stargate

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program when geomechanical was there

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couldn't really grok this if you go back

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and listen to that very contentious

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interview that I had with him he was in

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complete denial I mean he not only

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slammed Dean Radin and withdrew into

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this scientific materialism shell but he

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even found it very hard to accept the

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account of his colleague of Joe

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mechanical who said this

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exactly what happened and the reason is

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because Joe's story really bridges us

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from this geeky techie we do remote

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viewing cuz it technically does this in

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that to the challenges we have of saying

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anything intelligent about these

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extended consciousness realms let me

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explain what I mean so Joe mechanical

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has the NDE and becomes psychic how many

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times have you heard that story if

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you've studied the near-death experience

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science literature at all you know

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you're much more likely to be psychic

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after an NDE than before your NDE well

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what's up with that if we dig deeper and

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try and understand the spirituality of

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the near-death experience and connect

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that to the military intelligence aspect

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we're left with the kind of questions

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that I guess I have for Cortney in terms

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of how are we to juggle these two worlds

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you know of the many amazing videos that

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dr. Courtney brown has published on his

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Farsight website one of the ones that

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really caught my attention and made me

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want to dive into this show was one that

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didn't have all the fireworks of remote

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viewing Mars or the Dark Side of the

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Moon or Jesus's life all targets that

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he's had and has provided some amazing

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information about through his remote

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viewing sessions but the one that really

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caught my attention was the one about

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the Yogi's like Yogananda and other

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Yogi's who offer us a glimpse past the

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illusion of this time-space reality or

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in and might offer a clue to what remote

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viewing is really all about so we're

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about to head off on quite an exciting

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journey here with dr. Courtney Brown and

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I hope you'll stay with me for it here

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on skeptic Oh dr. Courtney Brown thanks

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for joining me you know I did a lengthy

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introduction to this interview that

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people here before

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jump into this conversation so I don't

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need to go over all that again but I did

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want to thank you so much for joining me

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I think you're such an important figure

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inside this I guess I want to call it

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consciousness community your work is

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amazing I think you're especially

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important in light of everything that's

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going on today and I'm a little bit

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surprised when I set up this interview

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was a little bit surprised that hey

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everybody's got to be talking to this

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guy about this stuff I mean we are in

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the middle of disclosure I mean the New

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York Times is coming out and saying oh

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yeah there really are UFO videos

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released by the Department of Defense

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and then you know the RV original guy

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dr. Hal put off is putting his name in

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there and saying yes this is all real at

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et Israel and UFOs are real and here you

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are sitting back dr. Courtney brown and

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this has kind of been your thing for the

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longest time you're well well-known

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inside the remote community as we just

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talked about but have you have you given

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much thought to where you are right now

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in terms of this stuff that seems to be

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coming around to what you've been

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talking about for so many years yeah it

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looks like it's a bit of a wave but

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we've seen these leaves happen before

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and you know you just have to it's like

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just don't believe it until you actually

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see it so some people are coming out and

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saying some things but in terms of a

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mass level of disclosure I don't think

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that's going to happen right obey the

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reason is that the mass level of

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disclosure for governments actually say

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yeah this was going on they don't do

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that in this they get something big from

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it there has to be some reason for it

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they're not going to just unleash that

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on the public they'll keep it going as

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long as I can they have to get something

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back from it and right now there's

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nothing they're really gonna get back

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from it like if they give if they have a

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full disclosure you'd have to say okay

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well what did the government get for

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that not just our government but the

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Russian government and like they don't

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really get any

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for that the one thing you should erase

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from your line permanently is that

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they'll do it just to be good guys I

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mean that just won't happen so you're

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getting some people come out and but

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you're still not getting any articles

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about it in at the level that it needs

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to be talked about openly whether that

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happens in 2020 I don't know whether it

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happens two thousand twenty one twenty

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two twenty three twenty five I don't

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know but the process of making that

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happen is incremental so unless we keep

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just giving to stuff out that we do it

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won't ever happen so it's very important

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that you don't expect like a sudden wave

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like a sudden immediate there will be an

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incremental movement and what we do is

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part of that incremental movement

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there's a good part of it and with what

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you're seeing right now is something

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that's very valuable

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from that perspective of that

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incremental movement but it's not the

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it's not the biggie that you're actually

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thinking about okay you know let's talk

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about that a little bit and Courtney you

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know I have this little kind of game

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that I play because it kind of helps

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move the conversation along and frames

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it up for people a little bit

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I call it skeptical jeopardy where I

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have a bunch of categories and then you

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get to pick but okay since you kind of

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let us in there I'm going to take the

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honor of picking the first one and

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that's is I want to talk about our V

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history a little bit because I think

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that what you said is really important

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and really significant and I think we

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have to understand the past before we

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can understand the future and I think

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what you alluded to is part of

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understanding that past is they gonna do

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nothing unless it's in their interest

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and for one I guess I'm very skeptical

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about the current round of disclosure I

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guess let me deconstruct a couple of

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things you said cuz they were so

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important and there were so many things

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going off in my head and I have to kind

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of pull it all back one I want to

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push that a little bit further because I

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think we've seen an unprecedented level

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of disclosure never before new york

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times the way they pushed that story out

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there Fox News CBS News everybody coming

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out the Department of Defense guy Lou

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Elizondo coming out and saying here are

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the videos people these are the videos

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we took on our Navy fighter pilots and

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they are real and UFOs are real we've

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never seen anything like that now the

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only way I think to interpret that is

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inside the framework you talked about

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which is the immediately step Bango hey

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what are they playin here what kind of

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game and the thing that keeps coming

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back to me from that is Defense

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Department Defense Department Defense

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Department Defense Department I mean if

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you look at this latest release that's

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all they talk about

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and that's very suspicious from these

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guys who have manipulated and controlled

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this information denied this information

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so one I want to kind of push back in

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that do you see this as I do as a unique

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wave among the waves this is kind of a

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unique wave and what might you I want

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you to speculate a little bit what do

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you think is the agenda are they trying

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to make a tea more friendly are they try

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to make RV remote viewing your field

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more friendly I mean again dr. Hale put

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off is right in the middle of this so

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we're riding along this tail is the idea

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that oh yeah we've been denying the

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remote viewing stuff over the years but

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00:24:00,130 --> 00:23:57,800
there's no need to deny it anymore if

545
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:00,140
this stuff is real you have any thoughts

546
00:24:05,650 --> 00:24:02,690
on on anything yeah it's an incremental

547
00:24:09,940 --> 00:24:05,660
movement it's it's not something that's

548
00:24:11,490 --> 00:24:09,950
coming out in a way that's got like the

549
00:24:13,450 --> 00:24:11,500
president's not making an announcement

550
00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:13,460
Congress isn't coming out with an

551
00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:14,960
announcement and the Defense Department

552
00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:16,910
is you have to understand the Defense

553
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:19,910
Department works for the government so

554
00:24:23,850 --> 00:24:21,440
they can't do things that are totally

555
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:23,860
autonomous they actually do a lot that's

556
00:24:29,650 --> 00:24:27,050
autonomous but they something like that

557
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:29,660
they just can't come out with and you

558
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:30,770
also have to understand that the

559
00:24:33,550 --> 00:24:32,330
government in terms of the elected

560
00:24:36,790 --> 00:24:33,560
officials are not

561
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:36,800
very important and all of this so the

562
00:24:44,020 --> 00:24:40,690
elected officials they were there they

563
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:44,030
get elected or re-elected every four

564
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:47,450
years for two years or six years but the

565
00:24:53,470 --> 00:24:49,970
real powers behind all of this are a

566
00:24:57,340 --> 00:24:53,480
financial interest that you don't see

567
00:25:00,340 --> 00:24:57,350
the you just don't see them and those

568
00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:00,350
people don't want the boat rocked and in

569
00:25:05,140 --> 00:25:01,910
terms of the Defense Department they're

570
00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:05,150
in a very delicate position because they

571
00:25:09,130 --> 00:25:07,520
know that politicians get voted out of

572
00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:09,140
office like the presidents get voted out

573
00:25:14,260 --> 00:25:11,510
of office they just cycle through so

574
00:25:14,860 --> 00:25:14,270
there's really no reason to tell the

575
00:25:20,290 --> 00:25:14,870
president

576
00:25:25,090 --> 00:25:20,300
difficult time getting real information

577
00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:25,100
about the UFO 18 phenomena and the

578
00:25:29,860 --> 00:25:26,840
defense department says why basically

579
00:25:34,930 --> 00:25:29,870
should we do that they they're gonna

580
00:25:37,930 --> 00:25:34,940
cycle out anyway and it may be that they

581
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:37,940
do get a file that sort of tells them a

582
00:25:42,790 --> 00:25:40,130
bunch of stuff so that they the defense

583
00:25:45,790 --> 00:25:42,800
department can't be accused of you know

584
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:45,800
keeping that information totally but do

585
00:25:50,050 --> 00:25:48,410
they get everything and so the Defense

586
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:50,060
Department just can run out the clock

587
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:53,090
with any politician and you don't really

588
00:25:57,070 --> 00:25:54,640
know if you can trust a politician

589
00:25:59,950 --> 00:25:57,080
they're just a political person that got

590
00:26:02,050 --> 00:25:59,960
a lot of votes and do they really have a

591
00:26:04,570 --> 00:26:02,060
security clearance do they really know

592
00:26:06,340 --> 00:26:04,580
how to do all the things and Defense

593
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:06,350
Department people they're there for

594
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:09,170
decades there those are career people

595
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:11,690
and they say basically they're in a

596
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:13,370
situation where they can where they can

597
00:26:17,610 --> 00:26:16,490
say if we wait a couple more years the

598
00:26:20,020 --> 00:26:17,620
guy's gone

599
00:26:21,550 --> 00:26:20,030
let me let me interject a question there

600
00:26:23,890 --> 00:26:21,560
because a great point I love to run out

601
00:26:27,730 --> 00:26:23,900
the clock thing great point but in this

602
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:27,740
case we have what I always see in as an

603
00:26:35,050 --> 00:26:31,850
outsider is a political sigh

604
00:26:38,020 --> 00:26:35,060
to the UFO et thing you have John

605
00:26:39,610 --> 00:26:38,030
Podesta and the Clintons who were going

606
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:39,620
to use the disclosure thing and they

607
00:26:43,690 --> 00:26:41,210
were open about that before the last

608
00:26:45,820 --> 00:26:43,700
election and then the thing the election

609
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:45,830
turned out very surprisingly not in

610
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:46,970
their favor and

611
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:48,320
looks like now they've just gone ahead

612
00:26:52,299 --> 00:26:50,450
and rolled that out anyway right the

613
00:26:54,810 --> 00:26:52,309
same people behind it the same players

614
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:54,820
and now they just pushed it out and

615
00:27:01,000 --> 00:26:58,159
that's fine but it does look to me to be

616
00:27:03,399 --> 00:27:01,010
completely political you know anyone who

617
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:03,409
doesn't ask hey how come everyone who's

618
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:05,450
pushing this latest round of disclosure

619
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:09,679
seems to be just from one political side

620
00:27:13,770 --> 00:27:11,330
you know not whether that's a good side

621
00:27:17,260 --> 00:27:13,780
or a bad side it's like two competing

622
00:27:21,340 --> 00:27:17,270
corporations if you will but they do

623
00:27:23,590 --> 00:27:21,350
seem to have some operatives inside the

624
00:27:25,060 --> 00:27:23,600
Defense Department or maybe I have that

625
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:25,070
backwards like you're saying maybe the

626
00:27:29,860 --> 00:27:27,530
defense the Defense Department has them

627
00:27:32,890 --> 00:27:29,870
but there do seem to be other factions

628
00:27:34,539 --> 00:27:32,900
involved that are not wanting to

629
00:27:38,049 --> 00:27:34,549
disclose or wanting to disclose a

630
00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:38,059
different way or wanting to I don't know

631
00:27:42,130 --> 00:27:40,669
do something differently so again I

632
00:27:44,350 --> 00:27:42,140
guess I'm pushing that a little bit

633
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:44,360
further what about the political aspect

634
00:27:47,409 --> 00:27:46,370
of the current round of disclosure what

635
00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:47,419
does that tell us about the relationship

636
00:27:53,620 --> 00:27:51,350
between the Defense Department and the

637
00:27:56,529 --> 00:27:53,630
higher-level secret government if you

638
00:27:59,919 --> 00:27:56,539
will and what's going on in the

639
00:28:02,320 --> 00:27:59,929
political scene well look at Podesta

640
00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:02,330
John Podesta for example he was in the

641
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:05,510
administration for a long time when he

642
00:28:12,060 --> 00:28:08,210
was with Hillary Clinton trying to get

643
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:12,070
reelected or her I'm sorry her elected

644
00:28:17,020 --> 00:28:15,289
he didn't have all the information all

645
00:28:19,060 --> 00:28:17,030
he promised was that he was going to try

646
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:19,070
to push for it and to get some

647
00:28:24,490 --> 00:28:21,890
disclosure so even when he was in the

648
00:28:26,370 --> 00:28:24,500
White House as someone who was working

649
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:26,380
under the president he didn't get it

650
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:31,039
when Barry Goldwater former senator from

651
00:28:35,860 --> 00:28:33,200
Arizona and political and and

652
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:35,870
presidential candidate who was very much

653
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:38,720
in favor of the government of the

654
00:28:44,980 --> 00:28:41,090
military called up one of his friends

655
00:28:46,390 --> 00:28:44,990
general friends who had a long time with

656
00:28:49,149 --> 00:28:46,400
and say hey just give me the scoop

657
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:49,159
what's going on he got this is his this

658
00:28:52,390 --> 00:28:51,740
is his good friend he got the Reuters

659
00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:52,400
shut down

660
00:28:56,289 --> 00:28:54,590
he said he ever had he said he said

661
00:28:58,539 --> 00:28:56,299
basically he said don't you ask about

662
00:29:00,850 --> 00:28:58,549
this again period or you're you're done

663
00:29:02,650 --> 00:29:00,860
we're not talking ever I mean this

664
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:02,660
a good friend of his just shut him out

665
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:06,110
and said no so Bill Clinton has said

666
00:29:12,580 --> 00:29:08,720
that he tried to push but he didn't

667
00:29:16,150 --> 00:29:12,590
really get very far so on the other hand

668
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:16,160
if you look at Russia for example so not

669
00:29:23,070 --> 00:29:19,850
President Putin Putin but his the the

670
00:29:27,730 --> 00:29:23,080
guy who was in between president Putin's

671
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:27,740
right right in office I made Jeff he he

672
00:29:32,220 --> 00:29:30,080
was asked about it and he made some

673
00:29:34,539 --> 00:29:32,230
loose comments off the off-the-cuff

674
00:29:35,710 --> 00:29:34,549
saying no when you get to be president

675
00:29:38,980 --> 00:29:35,720
but they do is he giving you a folder

676
00:29:40,750 --> 00:29:38,990
and it talks about the easy stuff tells

677
00:29:42,730 --> 00:29:40,760
all about the stuff you know where they

678
00:29:44,110 --> 00:29:42,740
are and what they're doing and he didn't

679
00:29:46,810 --> 00:29:44,120
say much more than that but he mentioned

680
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:46,820
there was a folder so that maybe just

681
00:29:50,740 --> 00:29:48,650
limited to Russia but maybe something

682
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:50,750
similar that happens in United States so

683
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:53,120
I mean the the presidents don't call me

684
00:29:58,419 --> 00:29:55,730
and tell me so I'm speculating but you

685
00:30:00,640 --> 00:29:58,429
know we don't have any overt evidence

686
00:30:03,070 --> 00:30:00,650
that the political people have much

687
00:30:05,230 --> 00:30:03,080
information about this so what you can

688
00:30:07,419 --> 00:30:05,240
say with the Defense Department is that

689
00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:07,429
I'm certain that there were some people

690
00:30:12,970 --> 00:30:10,070
in the Defense Department that really

691
00:30:14,890 --> 00:30:12,980
want to push this and push this closer

692
00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:14,900
further that they think it's in the in

693
00:30:19,090 --> 00:30:16,910
the planet's interest and there are

694
00:30:21,610 --> 00:30:19,100
others that say no why should we do it

695
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:21,620
and I'm positive that the economic

696
00:30:25,690 --> 00:30:24,650
powers that we absolutely do not want it

697
00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:25,700
because they're not going to get

698
00:30:30,190 --> 00:30:27,710
anything for it they don't do anything

699
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:30,200
they don't do anything have billions and

700
00:30:33,610 --> 00:30:32,090
billions and billions but they don't

701
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:33,620
they don't do tenth they don't give me

702
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:35,330
$10 and that they get unless I get

703
00:30:40,419 --> 00:30:37,010
something from it there has to be a

704
00:30:42,190 --> 00:30:40,429
reason for it and I don't so I just

705
00:30:46,299 --> 00:30:42,200
don't see it so you're seeing some

706
00:30:48,419 --> 00:30:46,309
leakages coming out but it's not it's

707
00:30:50,980 --> 00:30:48,429
not going to turn out to be an immediate

708
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:50,990
you know presidential announcements I

709
00:30:54,850 --> 00:30:53,450
think in my opinion so what we're doing

710
00:30:58,060 --> 00:30:54,860
at Farsight is actually absolutely

711
00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:58,070
crucial to that so we're not yet being

712
00:31:02,169 --> 00:30:59,840
talked about in the New York Times we're

713
00:31:04,450 --> 00:31:02,179
not yet being talked about in CNN I've

714
00:31:06,820 --> 00:31:04,460
been interviewed on CNN a couple times

715
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:06,830
but you know we're not being interviewed

716
00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:10,640
and talked about on those venues so the

717
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:12,260
time is not right for that so what we're

718
00:31:16,390 --> 00:31:13,850
doing is we're doing all of our

719
00:31:18,669 --> 00:31:16,400
we have a huge list of projects that

720
00:31:20,409 --> 00:31:18,679
we've done that we completed and we have

721
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:20,419
a continual string of projects we come

722
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:22,070
out with at least one project a month

723
00:31:29,260 --> 00:31:26,650
and we come out with projects that are

724
00:31:30,669 --> 00:31:29,270
big projects some the ones who come out

725
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:30,679
with every month and our project ended

726
00:31:34,750 --> 00:31:32,530
in a show we have called Time cross and

727
00:31:36,970 --> 00:31:34,760
the ones we come out with that are

728
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:36,980
really big that we sell as movies we

729
00:31:42,909 --> 00:31:39,410
have those we come out we sell those on

730
00:31:47,710 --> 00:31:42,919
Vimeo so that's that's what we do and

731
00:31:49,810 --> 00:31:47,720
then the money that we get from selling

732
00:31:53,020 --> 00:31:49,820
our videos the YouTube money that we get

733
00:31:55,570 --> 00:31:53,030
is about a couple hundred dollars a

734
00:31:59,409 --> 00:31:55,580
month nothing nothing significant from

735
00:32:01,840 --> 00:31:59,419
the advertisers the money that we get

736
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:01,850
from Vimeo is a couple thousand between

737
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:03,289
two and five thousand dollars a month

738
00:32:09,130 --> 00:32:05,450
depending on whether we have a big thing

739
00:32:11,710 --> 00:32:09,140
our payroll is twenty to thirty thousand

740
00:32:13,390 --> 00:32:11,720
dollars a month so you can sort of say

741
00:32:16,390 --> 00:32:13,400
where's the money coming from

742
00:32:18,909 --> 00:32:16,400
well we do forecasts we do forecasts

743
00:32:21,669 --> 00:32:18,919
that nobody sees economic forecasts and

744
00:32:23,710 --> 00:32:21,679
things like that and that's where I

745
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:23,720
money goes as to our money comes to do

746
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:25,490
things like that so we have to have a

747
00:32:29,770 --> 00:32:27,710
you know a different stream of income to

748
00:32:31,419 --> 00:32:29,780
be able to do this but because we have a

749
00:32:33,940 --> 00:32:31,429
different stream of income we can't put

750
00:32:37,890 --> 00:32:33,950
out these projects and so our long-term

751
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:37,900
goal is to be able to make significant

752
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:40,970
YouTube contributions and movie

753
00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:42,799
contributions not to get into the movie

754
00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:45,340
theaters but that are downloadable and

755
00:32:50,289 --> 00:32:48,049
they fill in the gap of everything

756
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:50,299
because when this disclosure moment

757
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:52,570
happens that you're talking about Alex

758
00:32:57,940 --> 00:32:55,370
that's when fara sites library is going

759
00:32:59,919 --> 00:32:57,950
to be incredibly important that's when

760
00:33:01,720 --> 00:32:59,929
the whole kit and caboodle will be

761
00:33:03,490 --> 00:33:01,730
that's when the world looks at us in

762
00:33:06,730 --> 00:33:03,500
real-time and says what the

763
00:33:08,890 --> 00:33:06,740
blankety-blank and then they'll see it

764
00:33:11,649 --> 00:33:08,900
so that library has to be ready and that

765
00:33:13,630 --> 00:33:11,659
library is also ready for TV series and

766
00:33:15,580 --> 00:33:13,640
movies things like that of these

767
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:15,590
projects so it's not like we promised

768
00:33:19,870 --> 00:33:17,210
these projects these are fully completed

769
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:19,880
projects that can be filled out really

770
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:21,890
quickly so that's what we're actually

771
00:33:26,169 --> 00:33:24,110
doing we're completing projects we're

772
00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:26,179
setting them up each one is worth the

773
00:33:29,730 --> 00:33:27,310
television series

774
00:33:33,210 --> 00:33:29,740
at least and some of them were worth

775
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:33,220
movies and as long as we can keep

776
00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:36,970
affording to do them we're going to you

777
00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:39,460
know do them and so so we had two things

778
00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:41,830
going on at the same time we have

779
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:43,840
economic stuff that's going on and then

780
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:46,210
we have these movies going on and we

781
00:33:49,860 --> 00:33:47,710
have our pen two people that work with

782
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:49,870
us our remote viewers this is their job

783
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:51,760
this is full-time they work on it every

784
00:33:55,860 --> 00:33:53,890
day they come in they work they get it

785
00:33:57,300 --> 00:33:55,870
done so and they've been training with

786
00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:57,310
us and working with us and being

787
00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:00,640
professionals four or five years so and

788
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:02,800
some of them are shorter times burns but

789
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:05,050
some of them were really long and that's

790
00:34:08,340 --> 00:34:06,730
the only way this could be done so we

791
00:34:10,409 --> 00:34:08,350
knew that we had to pay people to do

792
00:34:12,419 --> 00:34:10,419
this that it couldn't be done on their

793
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:12,429
own budget in their free time this

794
00:34:16,530 --> 00:34:14,320
couldn't be a hobby this had to be a

795
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:16,540
full-time venture so we picked people

796
00:34:23,220 --> 00:34:19,330
that were good on camera

797
00:34:24,990 --> 00:34:23,230
usually models or or actors and we

798
00:34:27,690 --> 00:34:25,000
picked people that had really great

799
00:34:30,690 --> 00:34:27,700
presentational skills and then we paid

800
00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:30,700
them so the typical mode for training

801
00:34:35,399 --> 00:34:32,710
people is to have people that want to

802
00:34:38,190 --> 00:34:35,409
learn pay the instructor so we reverse

803
00:34:40,740 --> 00:34:38,200
that we pay the people and so now we

804
00:34:43,770 --> 00:34:40,750
have a whole set of people and we're

805
00:34:45,570 --> 00:34:43,780
expanding that to be able to scale that

806
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:45,580
to our needs we have way more work than

807
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:49,570
we can possibly do so we're having to

808
00:34:56,250 --> 00:34:53,050
expand and but that's that's what our

809
00:34:57,570 --> 00:34:56,260
role is building for that moment of

810
00:34:59,940 --> 00:34:57,580
great disclosure that you're talking

811
00:35:01,590 --> 00:34:59,950
about it look at it this way Alex you

812
00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:01,600
know this Facebook thing that's going on

813
00:35:06,590 --> 00:35:03,550
that's got a million signatures saying

814
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:06,600
they're going to storm area 51 in

815
00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:09,250
September well I don't think they're

816
00:35:14,370 --> 00:35:11,620
going to be able to storm area 51 to

817
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:14,380
look for the extraterrestrials but that

818
00:35:20,460 --> 00:35:16,720
gives you an idea of how the public is

819
00:35:22,110 --> 00:35:20,470
getting antsy about this subject and so

820
00:35:24,090 --> 00:35:22,120
that was actually whether there's a

821
00:35:26,580 --> 00:35:24,100
group of people that actually try to get

822
00:35:28,770 --> 00:35:26,590
into area 51 or not the very fact that

823
00:35:31,620 --> 00:35:28,780
you have over a million people signing a

824
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:31,630
petition on Facebook demanding to know

825
00:35:36,420 --> 00:35:34,510
what's in area 51 that's actually more

826
00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:36,430
important than government disclosure

827
00:35:40,770 --> 00:35:37,990
that's telling you that the public is

828
00:35:44,250 --> 00:35:40,780
actually getting antsy about it and

829
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:44,260
when you have enough people demanding to

830
00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:46,000
know what's going on and they simply

831
00:35:49,710 --> 00:35:48,220
don't believe the authorities that they

832
00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:49,720
laugh at the authorities and then the

833
00:35:54,570 --> 00:35:52,030
authority start losing control that's

834
00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:54,580
when it will become something that that

835
00:35:58,170 --> 00:35:56,710
powers-that-be will get something from

836
00:35:59,940 --> 00:35:58,180
it they'll say okay now and now

837
00:36:02,340 --> 00:35:59,950
hopefully if we let it go we maintain

838
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:02,350
control so that thing that's going on at

839
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:03,910
Facebook is actually more important than

840
00:36:07,620 --> 00:36:06,010
anything else is going on whether

841
00:36:09,810 --> 00:36:07,630
there's actually people they show up on

842
00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:09,820
area 51 or not I don't think you're

843
00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:11,260
going to let those people into area 51

844
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:14,920
of course but it is interesting that the

845
00:36:17,820 --> 00:36:16,090
movement I started I'm sort of

846
00:36:19,770 --> 00:36:17,830
interested this you know how many people

847
00:36:22,860 --> 00:36:19,780
sign this how many people signed to

848
00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:22,870
think or you know click on the thing

849
00:36:27,210 --> 00:36:24,880
right by the time September rolls around

850
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:27,220
that's interesting you just touched on

851
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:28,930
somebody the points that I don't want to

852
00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:30,880
touch on it and it's great that you did

853
00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:35,230
I really appreciate the openness to one

854
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:37,150
thing let's jump into I'm gonna pick

855
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:39,010
another category here because you just

856
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:41,440
talked about it I called it the Farsight

857
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:45,910
way and the idea is you have a certain

858
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:48,010
way of doing things we have to first

859
00:36:52,590 --> 00:36:50,890
introduce the Farsight Institute and

860
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:52,600
what it is and you just talked about

861
00:36:56,130 --> 00:36:54,240
that a little bit but you might want to

862
00:36:57,900 --> 00:36:56,140
backtrack a little bit and talk about

863
00:37:01,020 --> 00:36:57,910
the structure and that this is a

864
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:01,030
nonprofit organization but you also have

865
00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:03,280
a for-profit organization you've

866
00:37:07,980 --> 00:37:06,430
developed this thing called scientific

867
00:37:10,350 --> 00:37:07,990
remote viewing we have talked a little

868
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:10,360
bit about the history of remote viewing

869
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:15,370
and how this was a protocol developed by

870
00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:17,920
the military to be somewhat scientific

871
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:19,780
so it could be repeatable and used for

872
00:37:25,770 --> 00:37:22,570
these espionage purposes you as a

873
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:25,780
trained academic as a trained really

874
00:37:30,030 --> 00:37:28,330
science guy political science guy but a

875
00:37:32,730 --> 00:37:30,040
science guy and understand modeling and

876
00:37:35,790 --> 00:37:32,740
statistics so wait a minute the the best

877
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:35,800
methods to be applied here should be

878
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:38,110
like this and even in the way that you

879
00:37:43,590 --> 00:37:40,450
just described the way you do things

880
00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:43,600
there's so many aspects of that that are

881
00:37:47,820 --> 00:37:46,030
embedded in your explanation why you do

882
00:37:49,950 --> 00:37:47,830
things the way that you do how you

883
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:49,960
select targets the protocol that you use

884
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:53,050
the hour veers that you choose and you

885
00:37:57,089 --> 00:37:54,640
just brush over the fact that you

886
00:37:59,549 --> 00:37:57,099
sited early on did not early on actually

887
00:38:03,750 --> 00:37:59,559
kind of later in the game you decided

888
00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:03,760
hey I need to bring people in cold train

889
00:38:08,970 --> 00:38:06,190
him in my technique top to bottom and

890
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:08,980
then I need to control all these aspects

891
00:38:15,089 --> 00:38:12,160
of the remote viewing session both for

892
00:38:17,069 --> 00:38:15,099
the quality and content of what the

893
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:17,079
remote viewing session generates but

894
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:22,720
also for the presentation on video and

895
00:38:27,509 --> 00:38:24,609
how I'm going to present these videos so

896
00:38:30,589 --> 00:38:27,519
you know we could spend hours and hours

897
00:38:33,150 --> 00:38:30,599
talking about the very impressive

898
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:33,160
protocol and scientific work that you've

899
00:38:38,910 --> 00:38:35,920
gone into devising this thing that

900
00:38:41,849 --> 00:38:38,920
people see it from the outward sense of

901
00:38:44,309 --> 00:38:41,859
oh that's Farsight Institute that's this

902
00:38:47,759 --> 00:38:44,319
guy here produces these Hollywood style

903
00:38:50,970 --> 00:38:47,769
productions of what they saw in the moon

904
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:50,980
landing or what really happened when JFK

905
00:38:55,980 --> 00:38:53,410
was assassinated what really happened on

906
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:55,990
9/11 and then they'll see this video as

907
00:39:00,329 --> 00:38:58,000
it plays out and they won't know all

908
00:39:02,670 --> 00:39:00,339
this stuff that's going on behind the

909
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:02,680
scenes so if you will elaborate a little

910
00:39:08,490 --> 00:39:06,609
bit on what SRV is and more about the

911
00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:08,500
projects the protocols that I think

912
00:39:12,059 --> 00:39:09,670
people will find interesting

913
00:39:14,749 --> 00:39:12,069
yeah well the original stuff that came

914
00:39:17,460 --> 00:39:14,759
out of the military was called CRP

915
00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:17,470
controlled remote viewing and there were

916
00:39:23,150 --> 00:39:19,140
some people that had their own methods

917
00:39:26,009 --> 00:39:23,160
that weren't cr-v such as Joe mcmoneagle

918
00:39:28,349 --> 00:39:26,019
but crv was the one that was taught

919
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:28,359
mostly to think for the military people

920
00:39:32,999 --> 00:39:30,609
and that was very interesting it was a

921
00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:33,009
it was an interesting process it was

922
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:36,430
developed by Ingo Swann and the military

923
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:38,650
people that exist today tend to be very

924
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:41,440
loyal to that approach and that's fine

925
00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:42,490
that's good they're doing a great

926
00:39:47,579 --> 00:39:45,460
contribution and so on but that's not

927
00:39:50,849 --> 00:39:47,589
the way we work so we started with the

928
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:50,859
CRV methods and we said well it's not

929
00:39:56,849 --> 00:39:52,930
doing everything we want to do and

930
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:56,859
there's it's it's just not enough and we

931
00:40:00,319 --> 00:39:58,480
wanted it by Morgan Toby what do you

932
00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:00,329
mean when you say that it's not enough

933
00:40:06,359 --> 00:40:01,990
specifically what were some of the

934
00:40:07,540 --> 00:40:06,369
limitations with the CRV the remote

935
00:40:10,330 --> 00:40:07,550
viewing that was

936
00:40:12,460 --> 00:40:10,340
done at most notably at Stanford

937
00:40:14,050 --> 00:40:12,470
Research Institute and then was taken

938
00:40:15,820 --> 00:40:14,060
out of that and some people did it in

939
00:40:17,350 --> 00:40:15,830
the private sector but like you said

940
00:40:19,570 --> 00:40:17,360
everyone just kind of hey this is how we

941
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:19,580
learned it this is how we teach it this

942
00:40:24,370 --> 00:40:22,010
is a protocol we follow some amazing

943
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:24,380
results people can find on the Internet

944
00:40:30,250 --> 00:40:26,570
of people who are able to be psychic in

945
00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:30,260
this remote viewing way so what were the

946
00:40:34,990 --> 00:40:32,390
limitations that you saw that you sought

947
00:40:36,610 --> 00:40:35,000
to overcome I understand that the

948
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:36,620
military people don't think that they

949
00:40:41,740 --> 00:40:38,240
have limitations so I'm just speaking

950
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:41,750
for myself so the limitations that we

951
00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:44,480
had was ask and ye shall receive

952
00:40:49,450 --> 00:40:47,030
you know the biblical phrase well that

953
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:49,460
applies to remote viewing as well the

954
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:50,930
whole idea is you don't get anything

955
00:40:55,090 --> 00:40:53,090
unless you ask for it and that's called

956
00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:55,100
probing you have to actually put the pen

957
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:57,440
in the paper and probe for something you

958
00:41:02,950 --> 00:40:59,440
have to know what you're asking for and

959
00:41:04,330 --> 00:41:02,960
you know the military the CRB process

960
00:41:07,150 --> 00:41:04,340
doesn't ask for much

961
00:41:10,030 --> 00:41:07,160
so you're probing an ideogram and you're

962
00:41:11,740 --> 00:41:10,040
sort of getting whatever you get but we

963
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:11,750
have rented a whole laundry list of

964
00:41:18,580 --> 00:41:13,760
stuff that we wanted the people to ask

965
00:41:20,650 --> 00:41:18,590
about and the the process also from my

966
00:41:22,930 --> 00:41:20,660
point of view was limited because it

967
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:22,940
didn't include a mandatory phase of the

968
00:41:28,180 --> 00:41:26,450
meditation so when we do it we have a

969
00:41:30,460 --> 00:41:28,190
mandatory phase of meditation that

970
00:41:32,530 --> 00:41:30,470
starts first and then after the

971
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:32,540
meditation the viewers rest until

972
00:41:36,430 --> 00:41:34,130
there's no more tiredness in the mouth

973
00:41:38,380 --> 00:41:36,440
and without speaking anything they then

974
00:41:40,740 --> 00:41:38,390
calmly walk over to their desks and

975
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:40,750
start their session and they're deep

976
00:41:47,260 --> 00:41:44,690
that's how we do it and that was not a

977
00:41:50,020 --> 00:41:47,270
mandatory elements in the military stuff

978
00:41:51,820 --> 00:41:50,030
but let me interject something here

979
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:51,830
because I don't want people to take

980
00:41:55,690 --> 00:41:54,290
things the wrong way talk about the

981
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,700
probing thing because I know immediately

982
00:41:59,170 --> 00:41:57,200
for some people who are really

983
00:42:00,760 --> 00:41:59,180
knowledgeable and a lot of people

984
00:42:03,250 --> 00:42:00,770
listening to this show are they were

985
00:42:05,860 --> 00:42:03,260
hearing remote viewing probing and

986
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:05,870
they're like oh he's revealing

987
00:42:10,750 --> 00:42:08,240
information about the target there's

988
00:42:14,590 --> 00:42:10,760
information leakage going on and that

989
00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:14,600
explains these amazing results and I

990
00:42:17,290 --> 00:42:16,910
know that's not the case so what do you

991
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:17,300
mean by that

992
00:42:21,570 --> 00:42:19,330
well we have an

993
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:21,580
that we asked for so many things we have

994
00:42:26,730 --> 00:42:24,310
printed templates that they use on all

995
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:26,740
of their sessions and it's the same

996
00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:29,530
templates for all of their targets so

997
00:42:33,570 --> 00:42:31,780
they have to go through an ideogram the

998
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,580
target coordinates and then the ideogram

999
00:42:37,650 --> 00:42:35,440
and that's very similar to this here of

1000
00:42:40,620 --> 00:42:37,660
a process and then they have to do some

1001
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:40,630
basic decoding of those nè grams and to

1002
00:42:45,660 --> 00:42:42,970
figure out if it's a hard saw semi-hard

1003
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:45,670
semi soft butter mushy is a natural

1004
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:48,490
man-made energetics movement things like

1005
00:42:54,570 --> 00:42:51,730
that artificial and then they they go

1006
00:42:57,690 --> 00:42:54,580
into whether it's static or dynamic or

1007
00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:57,700
whether it's complex or simple that good

1008
00:43:01,740 --> 00:42:59,530
now and let me just that again again

1009
00:43:03,570 --> 00:43:01,750
because I hate to kind of you're doing

1010
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:03,580
such an awesome job of giving us the

1011
00:43:06,540 --> 00:43:05,170
kind of advanced thing but I want to

1012
00:43:08,910 --> 00:43:06,550
make sure we don't leave people in the

1013
00:43:12,540 --> 00:43:08,920
dust let me just recap for it and see if

1014
00:43:15,690 --> 00:43:12,550
this is so people know when you design a

1015
00:43:17,370 --> 00:43:15,700
target your remote viewers people who

1016
00:43:20,940 --> 00:43:17,380
are viewing that target let's say it's

1017
00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:20,950
the 911 event they have no knowledge

1018
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:23,680
whatsoever of the target that they're

1019
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:25,210
viewing whether it's the life of Jesus

1020
00:43:32,070 --> 00:43:29,200
9/11 or some future target on Mars they

1021
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:32,080
have no idea and then they they receive

1022
00:43:36,210 --> 00:43:34,690
a random number that they generate

1023
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:36,220
themselves so they're totally in the

1024
00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:37,810
dark and they're independent they don't

1025
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:40,270
talk with each other these remote

1026
00:43:44,370 --> 00:43:41,950
viewers come in and they do their

1027
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:44,380
session and they don't know anyone else

1028
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:45,760
who's remote viewing it they have no

1029
00:43:49,530 --> 00:43:47,290
idea what the target is and it's just

1030
00:43:50,850 --> 00:43:49,540
like I get ready setgo thing and then

1031
00:43:53,490 --> 00:43:50,860
the next thing that you're adding to it

1032
00:43:56,580 --> 00:43:53,500
is that rather than just say okay go on

1033
00:44:00,270 --> 00:43:56,590
that number you say go on that random

1034
00:44:02,430 --> 00:44:00,280
number that you took and now consider

1035
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:02,440
these points and that's why some people

1036
00:44:06,690 --> 00:44:04,210
want to watch these videos it's

1037
00:44:09,390 --> 00:44:06,700
sometimes seem strange the way that they

1038
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:09,400
talk they say I see in you know they're

1039
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,930
talking about an explosion and then they

1040
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:12,400
immediately you start talking in another

1041
00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:14,710
language you say I see an event that

1042
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:16,270
causes this you know because they don't

1043
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:18,400
want to it's the old cr-v thing they

1044
00:44:25,860 --> 00:44:22,330
don't want to attach any kind of overlay

1045
00:44:27,870 --> 00:44:25,870
on it so this is all such routine stuff

1046
00:44:29,970 --> 00:44:27,880
for you and people who really know

1047
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:29,980
remote viewing but I want to make sure

1048
00:44:33,380 --> 00:44:31,920
people understand that you're

1049
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:33,390
way past that and you're talking about

1050
00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:37,440
the differences in the Farsight way and

1051
00:44:41,060 --> 00:44:39,660
the way that you do it is that you know

1052
00:44:42,350 --> 00:44:41,070
you're kind of structuring it a little

1053
00:44:43,540 --> 00:44:42,360
bit more and you found that to be more

1054
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:43,550
effective and then you added the

1055
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:45,450
meditation part which is really

1056
00:44:48,980 --> 00:44:47,370
interesting too so sorry to interrupt I

1057
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:48,990
just want to make sure people understand

1058
00:44:54,020 --> 00:44:50,370
technical some of these things the wrong

1059
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:54,030
way you see um with remote viewing you

1060
00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:55,890
have to get the information out really

1061
00:45:00,530 --> 00:44:58,650
quickly like within three seconds or the

1062
00:45:02,270 --> 00:45:00,540
conscious mind will take over so you

1063
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:02,280
have to have a constant flow of things

1064
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:04,770
to do so the first thing is they draw a

1065
00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:07,650
they write these random numbers and the

1066
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,910
random numbers don't mean anything

1067
00:45:12,830 --> 00:45:10,560
they're just a distraction to the

1068
00:45:14,590 --> 00:45:12,840
conscious mind so that immediately after

1069
00:45:17,210 --> 00:45:14,600
the random numbers are written a

1070
00:45:19,940 --> 00:45:17,220
spontaneous drawing can come out and

1071
00:45:22,670 --> 00:45:19,950
then they probe that spontaneous drawing

1072
00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:22,680
with their pen and in their program with

1073
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:23,910
your pen they're feeling it with their

1074
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:24,240
mind

1075
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:26,730
figuring out what it is and when they do

1076
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:29,970
that they have a list of things that

1077
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:31,890
they know they have to feel it the field

1078
00:45:37,580 --> 00:45:35,850
would it you know to ask about asking

1079
00:45:39,770 --> 00:45:37,590
you shall proceed if you just probe it

1080
00:45:42,110 --> 00:45:39,780
you may get something it may not get

1081
00:45:44,570 --> 00:45:42,120
something but if you probe it and say is

1082
00:45:47,450 --> 00:45:44,580
it hard soft someone heard so myself is

1083
00:45:50,570 --> 00:45:47,460
it a structure and then wouldn't say it

1084
00:45:53,780 --> 00:45:50,580
went with cr-v the any grams are really

1085
00:45:56,060 --> 00:45:53,790
a very relatively small part of the

1086
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:56,070
actual process but they're trying to do

1087
00:46:00,260 --> 00:45:57,570
with the ideograms as they're trying to

1088
00:46:03,020 --> 00:46:00,270
go through the ideograms until they have

1089
00:46:04,370 --> 00:46:03,030
some basic contact with the target so

1090
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:04,380
that they can get to something called

1091
00:46:08,810 --> 00:46:06,930
stage four and once they're in stage

1092
00:46:09,860 --> 00:46:08,820
four that they're in a matrix and they

1093
00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:09,870
start going then they're sort of

1094
00:46:14,270 --> 00:46:12,870
released and they go after stuff well we

1095
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:14,280
found that the ideograms are the most

1096
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:16,770
important part of the entire session so

1097
00:46:21,740 --> 00:46:18,510
we don't want to go through them fast we

1098
00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:21,750
want to go through them a lot so we have

1099
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:25,140
a five page single-spaced set of things

1100
00:46:28,490 --> 00:46:26,880
that they're supposed to ask about that

1101
00:46:30,050 --> 00:46:28,500
they go through every time you do a

1102
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:30,060
session and every time they probe the

1103
00:46:34,430 --> 00:46:32,880
integrand they proba and they probe when

1104
00:46:36,170 --> 00:46:34,440
they ask is it they said to this and

1105
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:36,180
they're all low-level pieces of

1106
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:39,450
information so they're all it's nothing

1107
00:46:44,060 --> 00:46:42,210
like is it the Eiffel Tower no they're

1108
00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:44,070
all things like is it a hard base

1109
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:45,960
surface or a wet base surface

1110
00:46:49,730 --> 00:46:48,210
is it made is respect your honor decent

1111
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:49,740
metal is that hard what does it sound

1112
00:46:53,839 --> 00:46:50,910
like what are the sounds that are there

1113
00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:53,849
and they have a huge huge number of

1114
00:46:58,220 --> 00:46:55,500
federal five pages single-spaced of

1115
00:46:59,690 --> 00:46:58,230
stuff they're probing for and they go to

1116
00:47:02,900 --> 00:46:59,700
that integrand to do it and after that

1117
00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:02,910
they get a sketch unless I get something

1118
00:47:06,260 --> 00:47:04,710
called a flash sketch which is a flash a

1119
00:47:07,849 --> 00:47:06,270
sketch that when they close their eyes

1120
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:07,859
they have a blackboard in front of them

1121
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:11,130
boom there is an image that comes they

1122
00:47:14,839 --> 00:47:12,690
don't try to understand it they just put

1123
00:47:16,460 --> 00:47:14,849
it on the paper and then they probe that

1124
00:47:18,589 --> 00:47:16,470
sketch and try to fill in that sketch

1125
00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:18,599
then they probe for any activity and

1126
00:47:22,940 --> 00:47:19,980
then they probe and then they have any

1127
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:22,950
tip any pictures of a vase sketches of a

1128
00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:25,050
pipe activity so that one integrand

1129
00:47:30,799 --> 00:47:28,230
leads to five pages of paper you know

1130
00:47:33,770 --> 00:47:30,809
with serine that 180-gram is over in a

1131
00:47:35,329 --> 00:47:33,780
page in one page so after me and then we

1132
00:47:37,579 --> 00:47:35,339
do that three times so you're talking

1133
00:47:40,730 --> 00:47:37,589
five pages of paper times three you got

1134
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:40,740
fifteen pages plus a ton of sketches so

1135
00:47:46,430 --> 00:47:43,650
we don't even use that so-called matrix

1136
00:47:47,809 --> 00:47:46,440
for stage for what we do then is neo

1137
00:47:50,210 --> 00:47:47,819
five pages with detailed information

1138
00:47:53,539 --> 00:47:50,220
tons of stages tons of the other

1139
00:47:56,690 --> 00:47:53,549
pictures and then we do a map procedure

1140
00:47:59,329 --> 00:47:56,700
where we have them go up some amount

1141
00:48:01,880 --> 00:47:59,339
that they do shows a thousand feet mm

1142
00:48:03,530 --> 00:48:01,890
see they go at the at the level of

1143
00:48:05,870 --> 00:48:03,540
whatever the UT gram was representing

1144
00:48:07,789 --> 00:48:05,880
and at the top of it so if the any crime

1145
00:48:09,710 --> 00:48:07,799
was representing a building the first

1146
00:48:11,569 --> 00:48:09,720
one would be right there at the building

1147
00:48:13,370 --> 00:48:11,579
then they go up to the top of the

1148
00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:13,380
building like a bird perched at the top

1149
00:48:17,420 --> 00:48:15,240
of the building and then they go say a

1150
00:48:19,250 --> 00:48:17,430
2,000 feet above it and look around and

1151
00:48:21,170 --> 00:48:19,260
with each one of those things are doing

1152
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:21,180
pictures and they're probing and

1153
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:22,890
figuring out what's going on then they

1154
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:24,960
go down to the base surface and then

1155
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:26,490
they go one mile in one direction one

1156
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,049
mile in another direction one mile in

1157
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:30,000
four different directions so they find

1158
00:48:36,819 --> 00:48:33,150
out what's around the thing and then

1159
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:36,829
they do another set of sketches okay so

1160
00:48:40,490 --> 00:48:39,119
and all of these things are in the

1161
00:48:41,900 --> 00:48:40,500
template it's actually printed out

1162
00:48:43,940 --> 00:48:41,910
there's so many things they have to do

1163
00:48:45,650 --> 00:48:43,950
you can't remember them all even if

1164
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:45,660
you've done it a thousand times

1165
00:48:50,030 --> 00:48:47,970
so there's a templates asking you what

1166
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:50,040
to do so senior uses blank pieces of

1167
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:52,049
paper but with us we have so many things

1168
00:48:56,930 --> 00:48:54,960
ask and you shall receive we made sure

1169
00:48:59,780 --> 00:48:56,940
that they had all the things that they

1170
00:49:01,340 --> 00:48:59,790
needed to do printed on a piece of paper

1171
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:01,350
so those are the big differences

1172
00:49:07,060 --> 00:49:04,710
meditation and we use templates and we

1173
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:07,070
have them probe for specific items

1174
00:49:13,490 --> 00:49:10,050
throughout the entire session and the

1175
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:13,500
process the template and the single page

1176
00:49:17,540 --> 00:49:15,570
five page list of things we're supposed

1177
00:49:18,590 --> 00:49:17,550
to look for those are the same for all

1178
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:18,600
that their sessions on they're

1179
00:49:24,140 --> 00:49:20,850
describing physical targets so that's

1180
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:24,150
terrific and for anyone who's really

1181
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:27,330
into our V protocol I mean that's just a

1182
00:49:33,290 --> 00:49:30,090
treasure trove there and it's hard to

1183
00:49:35,150 --> 00:49:33,300
not understand why other than your

1184
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:35,160
explanation is people just stick with

1185
00:49:39,590 --> 00:49:37,650
what they know why other people wouldn't

1186
00:49:41,870 --> 00:49:39,600
have moved in these directions because

1187
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:41,880
it makes perfectly good sense and I

1188
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:44,010
think when we talk about your results

1189
00:49:50,270 --> 00:49:47,280
you're gonna prove that your results are

1190
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:50,280
pretty amazing using this expanded

1191
00:49:55,310 --> 00:49:52,890
protocol yeah but you know we decided

1192
00:49:57,530 --> 00:49:55,320
long ago that it's not worthwhile trying

1193
00:49:59,150 --> 00:49:57,540
to convince anybody of anything just let

1194
00:50:01,580 --> 00:49:59,160
people do whatever they want to do and

1195
00:50:03,350 --> 00:50:01,590
that's fine and to get people to do what

1196
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:03,360
we wanted to do we found out that it was

1197
00:50:07,460 --> 00:50:06,090
impossible to try to persuade them so

1198
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:07,470
that's why we went out and got people

1199
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:10,170
raw and just said okay we're gonna teach

1200
00:50:14,060 --> 00:50:12,330
you how to do this exactly the way we

1201
00:50:15,740 --> 00:50:14,070
want you to do it and we're gonna pay

1202
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:15,750
you let's talk a little bit about that

1203
00:50:20,990 --> 00:50:19,170
let's just kind of lay it out there your

1204
00:50:22,460 --> 00:50:21,000
current our viewers who are featured

1205
00:50:24,770 --> 00:50:22,470
most prominently in your most recent

1206
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,780
videos one they're all African American

1207
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:26,640
and people are like what's going on

1208
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:29,010
there two of them are these young very

1209
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:33,930
attractive looking women well they're

1210
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:35,970
all very attractive and then you know

1211
00:50:38,450 --> 00:50:37,410
you probe a little bit further and it's

1212
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:38,460
really interesting the one

1213
00:50:43,250 --> 00:50:40,530
african-american guy happens your son

1214
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:43,260
he's very good-looking but he's your son

1215
00:50:47,660 --> 00:50:45,090
and he lives in Thailand and the other

1216
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:47,670
two I just love the story behind that I

1217
00:50:52,010 --> 00:50:49,440
mean it's not particularly politically

1218
00:50:54,590 --> 00:50:52,020
correct but it's like hey you know I'm

1219
00:50:55,970 --> 00:50:54,600
into acting I went and found out who are

1220
00:50:57,230 --> 00:50:55,980
good actors I thought they needed to

1221
00:50:58,700 --> 00:50:57,240
present I thought they needed to have

1222
00:51:01,280 --> 00:50:58,710
other skills I wanted to give

1223
00:51:02,780 --> 00:51:01,290
opportunities for particular groups

1224
00:51:04,610 --> 00:51:02,790
people african-americans less

1225
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:04,620
opportunity and I had a selfish reason

1226
00:51:08,180 --> 00:51:06,810
in doing it isn't it because our culture

1227
00:51:10,610 --> 00:51:08,190
is built in this way that gives them

1228
00:51:12,260 --> 00:51:10,620
less opportunities I'm more likely to

1229
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:12,270
retain them if I give them an

1230
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:13,890
opportunity and if they develop these

1231
00:51:18,740 --> 00:51:15,690
skills in a way that I can utilize so

1232
00:51:21,860 --> 00:51:18,750
correct me if I'm wrong but I love that

1233
00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:21,870
explanation for why we see what we see

1234
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:24,900
there well let me just say really

1235
00:51:32,270 --> 00:51:28,130
bluntly that race has absolutely zero

1236
00:51:34,010 --> 00:51:32,280
impact on what we do meaning my son's

1237
00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:34,020
out in Thailand right now trying to

1238
00:51:39,020 --> 00:51:36,270
organize an Asian version of Farsight

1239
00:51:41,540 --> 00:51:39,030
and we're going to be going also out to

1240
00:51:45,470 --> 00:51:41,550
Africa to organise an African version or

1241
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:45,480
say so race actually has as no bearing

1242
00:51:50,690 --> 00:51:48,240
whatsoever and everybody on Farsight

1243
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:50,700
video is up until recently for white men

1244
00:51:55,490 --> 00:51:53,370
so there was you know no one ever

1245
00:51:59,960 --> 00:51:55,500
brought up the issue of race then sure

1246
00:52:02,480 --> 00:51:59,970
so what what does matter to us is youth

1247
00:52:04,940 --> 00:52:02,490
meaning we're trying to appeal to the

1248
00:52:09,530 --> 00:52:04,950
younger demographic that has really been

1249
00:52:11,210 --> 00:52:09,540
the last element in the society to be

1250
00:52:13,220 --> 00:52:11,220
focused on the rainbow connect

1251
00:52:15,410 --> 00:52:13,230
phenomenon so we need to you know the

1252
00:52:16,910 --> 00:52:15,420
young shall inherit the earth so it is

1253
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:16,920
very important that we appeal to the

1254
00:52:22,670 --> 00:52:20,160
younger demographic and we also want to

1255
00:52:25,340 --> 00:52:22,680
work with people who are great on camera

1256
00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:25,350
so models are particularly good or

1257
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:27,510
actors are particularly good for that

1258
00:52:33,860 --> 00:52:30,480
and then we want to find out which

1259
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:33,870
people will stay with us and so race

1260
00:52:39,380 --> 00:52:36,090
doesn't have any impact at all on that

1261
00:52:41,330 --> 00:52:39,390
but I do ask what is the likelihood of

1262
00:52:44,420 --> 00:52:41,340
the person actually wanting to continue

1263
00:52:46,070 --> 00:52:44,430
with us to do this because there's only

1264
00:52:48,140 --> 00:52:46,080
one real currency you can always earn

1265
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:48,150
more money but there's only one real

1266
00:52:54,530 --> 00:52:51,450
currency that you can't earn back and

1267
00:52:56,660 --> 00:52:54,540
that's years so if you train somebody

1268
00:53:00,620 --> 00:52:56,670
for a year and then they go off their

1269
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:00,630
business goal at school at law school or

1270
00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:02,730
go off the you know do crop circling or

1271
00:53:08,090 --> 00:53:05,910
whatever then you've lost that entire

1272
00:53:10,910 --> 00:53:08,100
year and it doesn't matter if money's

1273
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:10,920
not the issue the issue is there's only

1274
00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:12,570
a certain number of years you have to

1275
00:53:18,140 --> 00:53:15,510
make a dent so you want to work with

1276
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:18,150
people who are going to stay with you so

1277
00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:20,010
you want to have talented people so one

1278
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:22,470
way interviewed these people that are

1279
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:24,480
our current collection of remote viewers

1280
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:26,770
race was never an issue

1281
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:28,930
it was longevity how long are they going

1282
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:29,770
to stay with us

1283
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:31,690
whether they would be great on camera

1284
00:53:35,010 --> 00:53:33,310
presenting this type of thing we have to

1285
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:35,020
teach them absolutely everything so it's

1286
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:37,090
not just a remote viewing we teach them

1287
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:38,770
all the presentational skills and

1288
00:53:43,620 --> 00:53:40,930
everything and we are going to be going

1289
00:53:45,540 --> 00:53:43,630
into making short skits like movies but

1290
00:53:47,580 --> 00:53:45,550
like short ones that are like three

1291
00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:47,590
three to ten minutes long and then we're

1292
00:53:51,810 --> 00:53:49,510
going to go into longer series a half

1293
00:53:55,470 --> 00:53:51,820
hour that are blending sort of fiction

1294
00:53:59,310 --> 00:53:55,480
plots with real remote viewing content

1295
00:54:01,650 --> 00:53:59,320
so imagine Star Trek but not totally

1296
00:54:04,170 --> 00:54:01,660
fiction imagine Star Trek but have real

1297
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:04,180
and have fiction so that it's more

1298
00:54:08,220 --> 00:54:05,920
entertaining to watch and it's real

1299
00:54:09,570 --> 00:54:08,230
acting going on but at the same time

1300
00:54:12,330 --> 00:54:09,580
you're always guessing is that the real

1301
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:12,340
part is that is that the fiction part so

1302
00:54:18,030 --> 00:54:15,010
that's really the orientation that we

1303
00:54:21,810 --> 00:54:18,040
had I think that's terrific and when I

1304
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:21,820
watch your videos I do feel like one

1305
00:54:27,060 --> 00:54:25,119
you've just advanced the bar so far

1306
00:54:29,490 --> 00:54:27,070
you're just to be congratulated you're

1307
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:29,500
way out there in a league totally of

1308
00:54:34,620 --> 00:54:31,690
your own in terms of taking this

1309
00:54:36,330 --> 00:54:34,630
information taking this technique

1310
00:54:38,730 --> 00:54:36,340
whatever it is even though we don't

1311
00:54:41,550 --> 00:54:38,740
completely understand it and kind of

1312
00:54:44,130 --> 00:54:41,560
operationalizing it for the good for the

1313
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:44,140
common good of everyone to learn stuff

1314
00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:47,770
rather than weaponizing it for evil you

1315
00:54:52,349 --> 00:54:49,510
know I mean not your that's where you're

1316
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:52,359
at but I do feel sometimes a little bit

1317
00:54:57,330 --> 00:54:55,119
frustrated with once I get past the

1318
00:54:59,490 --> 00:54:57,340
reality of what you're doing that this

1319
00:55:01,890 --> 00:54:59,500
guy really is following these protocols

1320
00:55:05,550 --> 00:55:01,900
as you just described and he's compiling

1321
00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:05,560
this awesome amount of information that

1322
00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:09,190
we can't really dismiss any longer

1323
00:55:13,620 --> 00:55:11,590
I want to go exactly where you're going

1324
00:55:16,260 --> 00:55:13,630
which is like okay I get it it's real

1325
00:55:18,210 --> 00:55:16,270
Kourtney you're not faking it now show

1326
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:18,220
it to me in a way that I can really just

1327
00:55:24,450 --> 00:55:21,520
kind of get it in a Netflix kind of

1328
00:55:26,910 --> 00:55:24,460
story kind of is it going Alex that's

1329
00:55:30,750 --> 00:55:26,920
exactly where we are going well that's

1330
00:55:33,330 --> 00:55:30,760
exciting man you know we are working on

1331
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:33,340
that now we need a new facility we have

1332
00:55:37,740 --> 00:55:35,050
two places that we do our work right now

1333
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:37,750
and we need a new facility that's a

1334
00:55:40,620 --> 00:55:39,730
little bit less considerably larger to

1335
00:55:42,690 --> 00:55:40,630
be able to house more

1336
00:55:44,310 --> 00:55:42,700
than one person at a time so if you look

1337
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:44,320
at all of our videos you'll always see

1338
00:55:49,350 --> 00:55:46,480
that there's only one person on camera

1339
00:55:52,590 --> 00:55:49,360
so we need to have a place that has more

1340
00:55:55,590 --> 00:55:52,600
than one person on camera and so working

1341
00:55:57,390 --> 00:55:55,600
on getting such a facility at you know

1342
00:55:59,760 --> 00:55:57,400
with that and then it has to have large

1343
00:56:02,790 --> 00:55:59,770
green screen capabilities as well so

1344
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:02,800
we're working on that and that will come

1345
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:04,690
about you'll also notice that we're

1346
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:07,810
adding new things each time so in the

1347
00:56:14,490 --> 00:56:09,760
last time cross show you'll see that we

1348
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:14,500
had some short 30-second videos with a

1349
00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:16,330
lot of stills blended together fancy

1350
00:56:21,210 --> 00:56:18,670
editing introducing the viewers so it

1351
00:56:23,850 --> 00:56:21,220
wasn't just pop there there there was a

1352
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:23,860
30-second intro and so we're trying to

1353
00:56:29,310 --> 00:56:26,530
add things that bring sort of the

1354
00:56:32,130 --> 00:56:29,320
backgrounds of who they are to our shows

1355
00:56:34,650 --> 00:56:32,140
and then we're also we're going to be

1356
00:56:36,780 --> 00:56:34,660
doing personal vlogs that will show up

1357
00:56:39,180 --> 00:56:36,790
on our other YouTube channel our site

1358
00:56:40,530 --> 00:56:39,190
prime where the reviewers talk about

1359
00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:40,540
their lives and what they do outside of

1360
00:56:45,300 --> 00:56:42,400
our site and how that sort of blends

1361
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:45,310
with what they do in Farsight so you

1362
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:48,250
know that is a component of what we will

1363
00:56:52,980 --> 00:56:50,770
do as well and then we will start doing

1364
00:56:55,460 --> 00:56:52,990
these skits of these Netflix type of

1365
00:56:59,010 --> 00:56:55,470
things that you're talking about and

1366
00:57:00,360 --> 00:56:59,020
that will bring in a much larger

1367
00:57:02,850 --> 00:57:00,370
audience because they're fun to watch

1368
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:02,860
that everybody likes to watch video

1369
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:05,920
presentations on a whiteboard some

1370
00:57:12,060 --> 00:57:07,450
people can sort of think of that is that

1371
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:12,070
going to school and we have to vary what

1372
00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:15,040
we do in the largest possible sense in

1373
00:57:19,740 --> 00:57:17,680
order to gain the interest at people who

1374
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:19,750
would like to see this content but it

1375
00:57:24,810 --> 00:57:21,910
has to be presented in a in a nice way

1376
00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:24,820
so basically we threw out the rules that

1377
00:57:29,130 --> 00:57:27,910
were originally developed for remote

1378
00:57:33,150 --> 00:57:29,140
viewing as it came out of the military

1379
00:57:36,990 --> 00:57:33,160
and we just invented the way we would

1380
00:57:41,220 --> 00:57:37,000
want to do this in real terms and you're

1381
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:41,230
seeing is sort of maybe 1/5 of the way

1382
00:57:47,550 --> 00:57:43,210
through the terms of where we're

1383
00:57:49,470 --> 00:57:47,560
actually going and so that's sort of

1384
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:49,480
exciting because you know now there's

1385
00:57:53,790 --> 00:57:51,760
more stuff planned but the people that

1386
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:53,800
you know complain on our YouTube channel

1387
00:57:56,210 --> 00:57:54,480
occasionally

1388
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:56,220
doesn't happen very often but it tells

1389
00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:58,050
where they say we should go back to this

1390
00:58:01,190 --> 00:58:00,720
or go back to that that's not gonna

1391
00:58:03,020 --> 00:58:01,200
happen

1392
00:58:04,849 --> 00:58:03,030
we're not going back anywhere we're

1393
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:04,859
marching forward doing new things having

1394
00:58:09,650 --> 00:58:07,680
interesting things to say and presenting

1395
00:58:12,740 --> 00:58:09,660
things and interestingly there's also a

1396
00:58:14,210 --> 00:58:12,750
fun factor we're not going to continue

1397
00:58:17,810 --> 00:58:14,220
doing this at all unless we're enjoying

1398
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:17,820
ourselves so having fun making these

1399
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:20,490
films is ghoshal we're not working for

1400
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:22,490
anybody we're working for ourselves

1401
00:58:27,020 --> 00:58:25,440
remember we get our them from the

1402
00:58:29,780 --> 00:58:27,030
majority of our money from things that

1403
00:58:31,490 --> 00:58:29,790
you don't even see so we're not working

1404
00:58:32,930 --> 00:58:31,500
for anybody when we do these videos

1405
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:32,940
we're working for ourselves and we want

1406
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:35,490
to have fun when we do these things and

1407
00:58:38,900 --> 00:58:37,680
a lot of fun we want to have fun just

1408
00:58:41,329 --> 00:58:38,910
like as if we were in a Hollywood movie

1409
00:58:43,010 --> 00:58:41,339
so we were in a TV series on you know

1410
00:58:46,700 --> 00:58:43,020
some sci-fi channel or something like

1411
00:58:49,099 --> 00:58:46,710
that so that's where we're headed and we

1412
00:58:52,220 --> 00:58:49,109
work with people that are gonna be with

1413
00:58:54,740 --> 00:58:52,230
us long term because what we do with the

1414
00:58:57,109 --> 00:58:54,750
training for remote going alone basic

1415
00:58:59,329 --> 00:58:57,119
takes nine months in their ear all the

1416
00:59:00,770 --> 00:58:59,339
time working on that that's a lot of

1417
00:59:02,599 --> 00:59:00,780
investment and then you have to train on

1418
00:59:04,579 --> 00:59:02,609
presentational skills and then that goes

1419
00:59:06,650 --> 00:59:04,589
on for a long time as well it's a big

1420
00:59:08,540 --> 00:59:06,660
thing and then we have to start training

1421
00:59:10,730 --> 00:59:08,550
on acting we have to track training on

1422
00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:10,740
everything or even we're even teaching

1423
00:59:13,790 --> 00:59:12,000
every movie where some of our remote

1424
00:59:15,530 --> 00:59:13,800
viewers don't know how to swim and we

1425
00:59:17,660 --> 00:59:15,540
want to be able to do some video and

1426
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:17,670
photo shoots when they're swimming and

1427
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:19,680
so we've been training them on how to

1428
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:23,609
swim I mean it goes you know is if if

1429
00:59:28,670 --> 00:59:25,730
it's fun we're going to try to do it and

1430
00:59:30,530 --> 00:59:28,680
it will have a a benefit for everybody

1431
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:30,540
because the video product will be better

1432
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:33,210
so rather than hire people for expensive

1433
00:59:38,059 --> 00:59:36,089
fees that can do everything and they'll

1434
00:59:40,579 --> 00:59:38,069
work with you for a day or two and then

1435
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:40,589
ask for their money and then go we find

1436
00:59:45,950 --> 00:59:42,089
people that want to stay with us for a

1437
00:59:47,390 --> 00:59:45,960
long term and pay them and this is their

1438
00:59:49,370 --> 00:59:47,400
job they don't get money from other

1439
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:49,380
things that this is their primary means

1440
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:52,079
of employment so we have to pay them

1441
00:59:57,890 --> 00:59:54,930
enough to stay and that's what we do and

1442
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:57,900
if we're not happy when we're doing it

1443
01:00:02,900 --> 01:00:00,960
you would see bad stuff you just

1444
01:00:04,430 --> 01:00:02,910
wouldn't you'd see it on the video so if

1445
01:00:07,010 --> 01:00:04,440
you see the videos being magnetic

1446
01:00:07,820 --> 01:00:07,020
interesting and engaging that's because

1447
01:00:09,860 --> 01:00:07,830
they're having fun

1448
01:00:11,930 --> 01:00:09,870
when they're doing all of this awesome

1449
01:00:14,810 --> 01:00:11,940
Courtney where should we go next well

1450
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:14,820
let's see how about targets that's a

1451
01:00:19,370 --> 01:00:17,040
good thing let's talk about targets then

1452
01:00:21,500 --> 01:00:19,380
this is mind blowing this is where

1453
01:00:24,530 --> 01:00:21,510
people usually start when they talk with

1454
01:00:26,690 --> 01:00:24,540
you because it's the flashy stuff that

1455
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:26,700
blows people away hey you want to know

1456
01:00:32,750 --> 01:00:29,610
what happened on the secret Apollo moon

1457
01:00:35,350 --> 01:00:32,760
missions go watch a Farsight video you

1458
01:00:38,420 --> 01:00:35,360
want to see what happened to Moses after

1459
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:38,430
Exodus go watch a Farsight video where

1460
01:00:42,170 --> 01:00:40,170
these remote viewers have travelled back

1461
01:00:44,420 --> 01:00:42,180
in time or forward in time and have told

1462
01:00:46,490 --> 01:00:44,430
you and are gonna tell you what would

1463
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:46,500
happen so we talked a lot about the

1464
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:49,890
protocol tell us about some of your

1465
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:52,290
favorite targets some of the most

1466
01:00:57,470 --> 01:00:54,210
controversial targets that you've had

1467
01:00:58,970 --> 01:00:57,480
and anything else that you might think

1468
01:01:00,860 --> 01:00:58,980
about in terms of targets maybe other

1469
01:01:03,410 --> 01:01:00,870
recipes let me tell you first how

1470
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:03,420
targets actually exist some people

1471
01:01:08,210 --> 01:01:05,280
thought in the beginning they thought it

1472
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:08,220
existed because they wrote it on a piece

1473
01:01:13,250 --> 01:01:10,530
of paper or because the computer picked

1474
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:13,260
it we did a ton of research to try to

1475
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:15,090
figure out what causes and remove you

1476
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:16,530
were to focus on one thing and not

1477
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:18,930
something else and what we finally

1478
01:01:22,460 --> 01:01:20,730
figured out and which were certain with

1479
01:01:25,460 --> 01:01:22,470
this now there's no ambiguity about it

1480
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:25,470
this we will go to our grave saying this

1481
01:01:30,290 --> 01:01:28,170
is it I don't care what anybody says the

1482
01:01:33,380 --> 01:01:30,300
remote killing target is dependent upon

1483
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:33,390
the thoughts that the person has who is

1484
01:01:38,500 --> 01:01:36,090
analyzing the data for the first time so

1485
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:38,510
let's say you do a session now and

1486
01:01:44,180 --> 01:01:41,370
somebody a week from now is looking at

1487
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:44,190
that target and comparing your data to

1488
01:01:47,330 --> 01:01:45,690
it on a computer screen they're looking

1489
01:01:50,180 --> 01:01:47,340
at the target and looking at your data

1490
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:50,190
and so on that's what creates the target

1491
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:52,650
there is a mental telepathic kind of a

1492
01:01:54,890 --> 01:01:54,720
retro causation come that's exactly

1493
01:01:57,290 --> 01:01:54,900
right

1494
01:01:59,240 --> 01:01:57,300
so you're there's a mental telepathic

1495
01:02:01,340 --> 01:01:59,250
link because the person that's looking

1496
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:01,350
at this stuff that's the person that

1497
01:02:04,820 --> 01:02:02,880
you're doing the session for so the

1498
01:02:07,250 --> 01:02:04,830
intent is to satisfy the informational

1499
01:02:09,530 --> 01:02:07,260
needs of that person so that person is

1500
01:02:11,330 --> 01:02:09,540
looking at the target a picture of the

1501
01:02:13,250 --> 01:02:11,340
target that is the thing that creates

1502
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:13,260
the focus that the remote viewer goes to

1503
01:02:18,020 --> 01:02:15,450
the morolto is trying to satisfy that

1504
01:02:21,590 --> 01:02:18,030
person it's informational needs and so

1505
01:02:23,810 --> 01:02:21,600
once you have that done it's like

1506
01:02:28,820 --> 01:02:23,820
a laser pointer that focuses at that one

1507
01:02:31,970 --> 01:02:28,830
thing so once we found out that we had

1508
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:31,980
tremendous control over the accuracy of

1509
01:02:36,650 --> 01:02:33,930
the remote force once we realized how

1510
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:36,660
important that was then we could control

1511
01:02:39,890 --> 01:02:36,960
it

1512
01:02:41,420 --> 01:02:39,900
we understood then that we could get

1513
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:41,430
them to go to the right place at the

1514
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:43,890
right time every time we do a remote

1515
01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:47,370
cleaning session the desk is cleared we

1516
01:02:51,590 --> 01:02:49,230
don't look at anything else we pick up

1517
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:51,600
the data we first pick up the pieces of

1518
01:02:56,900 --> 01:02:53,280
paper but we first look at the target

1519
01:03:00,370 --> 01:02:56,910
and we look at the computer screen we

1520
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:00,380
get the touchy-feely idea what it's like

1521
01:03:04,700 --> 01:03:02,850
you sort of get it into your mind and

1522
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:04,710
when it's there and there's nothing else

1523
01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:07,410
then you look at the data and it works

1524
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:08,310
like a charm

1525
01:03:12,740 --> 01:03:10,050
if the remote procedures are done

1526
01:03:16,460 --> 01:03:12,750
correctly they snap on to that target

1527
01:03:18,380 --> 01:03:16,470
like a rocket so once we did that we

1528
01:03:20,810 --> 01:03:18,390
said well we now have a great

1529
01:03:23,450 --> 01:03:20,820
flexibility to do these sessions

1530
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:23,460
economically meaning we can go after a

1531
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:25,170
lot of projects because our accuracy

1532
01:03:31,190 --> 01:03:29,370
rate increased and when the accuracy

1533
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:31,200
rate increased we can have projects that

1534
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:33,570
come out every month and then every few

1535
01:03:40,460 --> 01:03:36,930
months for big projects so we then went

1536
01:03:44,180 --> 01:03:40,470
into a lot of things now the some of the

1537
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:44,190
projects were done early on with remote

1538
01:03:46,550 --> 01:03:45,810
viewers that are that are now doing

1539
01:03:47,930 --> 01:03:46,560
other things

1540
01:03:51,140 --> 01:03:47,940
we're still all friends we all

1541
01:03:53,150 --> 01:03:51,150
communicate together and so on but some

1542
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:53,160
of the early projects were done with -

1543
01:03:57,950 --> 01:03:56,370
myth out Britain and the gal Guyer and

1544
01:03:59,180 --> 01:03:57,960
they heard two of the best remote

1545
01:04:01,100 --> 01:03:59,190
viewers on the planet they're really

1546
01:04:03,290 --> 01:04:01,110
great they use different procedures they

1547
01:04:05,150 --> 01:04:03,300
do not use Farsight procedures but

1548
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:05,160
they're the best in their class and the

1549
01:04:10,370 --> 01:04:08,250
procedures that they use and those are

1550
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:10,380
the people who did the 911 and the JFK

1551
01:04:16,610 --> 01:04:12,810
ones and some of the other ones Phoenix

1552
01:04:20,350 --> 01:04:16,620
lights and Liam's anti appetite that so

1553
01:04:25,250 --> 01:04:20,360
when we did the 911 one for example and

1554
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:25,260
even the JFK one I was a stupidest

1555
01:04:30,260 --> 01:04:27,290
person ever I designed the targets

1556
01:04:31,730 --> 01:04:30,270
written on a computer screen but they

1557
01:04:32,930 --> 01:04:31,740
were supposed to see what they were

1558
01:04:35,450 --> 01:04:32,940
supposed to write but they were supposed

1559
01:04:37,130 --> 01:04:35,460
to perceive and I actually went

1560
01:04:38,420 --> 01:04:37,140
again let me interject there explain

1561
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:38,430
that a little bit because I don't want

1562
01:04:43,750 --> 01:04:40,530
people to get that I write a variation I

1563
01:04:46,490 --> 01:04:43,760
write a very explicit description

1564
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:46,500
immediately this is designing the target

1565
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:48,960
no one is going to see this oh no one

1566
01:04:53,330 --> 01:04:51,090
ever sees no one ever sees the target

1567
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:53,340
until after all the sessions are done

1568
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:55,170
they're given to they're given to me

1569
01:04:58,670 --> 01:04:57,090
they're scanned in the video sessions

1570
01:05:01,010 --> 01:04:58,680
are done there's no more remote going

1571
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:01,020
work that needs to be done only then can

1572
01:05:06,890 --> 01:05:03,810
the remote viewers see the target now do

1573
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:06,900
you do any you are meditator you really

1574
01:05:10,430 --> 01:05:08,490
have been into TM for the longest time

1575
01:05:12,590 --> 01:05:10,440
it's a big part of your daily practice

1576
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:12,600
your mind hack consciousness hack is

1577
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:16,770
that a part of what you go into when

1578
01:05:20,450 --> 01:05:19,050
you're designing the target visualizing

1579
01:05:23,180 --> 01:05:20,460
the target you have anything more to add

1580
01:05:25,910 --> 01:05:23,190
about the target creation process it is

1581
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:25,920
it is true that I do the TM City program

1582
01:05:31,220 --> 01:05:29,090
the the viewers do a different a

1583
01:05:33,140 --> 01:05:31,230
somewhat similar but different form of

1584
01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:33,150
meditation of equal Farsight meditation

1585
01:05:41,030 --> 01:05:35,760
but every day I'm in meditation two and

1586
01:05:43,940 --> 01:05:41,040
a half hours basically and I'm almost in

1587
01:05:45,620 --> 01:05:43,950
that state all the time because you

1588
01:05:48,170 --> 01:05:45,630
spent two and a half hours every day in

1589
01:05:51,470 --> 01:05:48,180
that state it pretty much seeps into the

1590
01:05:53,930 --> 01:05:51,480
rest of the day as well and if I'm upset

1591
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:53,940
for any reason I do not touch anything

1592
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:55,770
dealing with remote even if there's any

1593
01:05:59,300 --> 01:05:57,570
distraction as if there's some house

1594
01:06:01,160 --> 01:05:59,310
repair that has to be done I don't do

1595
01:06:01,730 --> 01:06:01,170
anything because that would become part

1596
01:06:04,940 --> 01:06:01,740
of the target

1597
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:04,950
so whatever the thoughts are I make sure

1598
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:06,690
that they're only thoughts relating to

1599
01:06:09,530 --> 01:06:08,250
the target and then I write a

1600
01:06:11,450 --> 01:06:09,540
description of what they're supposed to

1601
01:06:14,300 --> 01:06:11,460
be perceiving it's very clear that's

1602
01:06:17,810 --> 01:06:14,310
very explicit for example it would be

1603
01:06:20,660 --> 01:06:17,820
the 911 stuff it would be the the 9/11

1604
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:20,670
events for the Twin Towers that resulted

1605
01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:22,890
in the collapse of the Twin Towers and

1606
01:06:28,010 --> 01:06:25,200
so on and and it would be a very

1607
01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:28,020
explicit statement about the event the

1608
01:06:32,030 --> 01:06:30,000
time the events have happened and so on

1609
01:06:34,070 --> 01:06:32,040
and that's it but the remote viewers

1610
01:06:35,780 --> 01:06:34,080
don't know that they just know that it's

1611
01:06:40,070 --> 01:06:35,790
a project we started and there's a

1612
01:06:43,220 --> 01:06:40,080
target that's it so they do that and in

1613
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:43,230
fact that is Smith and tical Geyer when

1614
01:06:47,570 --> 01:06:45,450
they did the 9/11 stuff they had no

1615
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:47,580
communication between themselves until

1616
01:06:52,130 --> 01:06:49,890
the very end and after all

1617
01:06:54,110 --> 01:06:52,140
sessions were in they were gonna have a

1618
01:06:56,900 --> 01:06:54,120
conference call between the two of them

1619
01:06:58,790 --> 01:06:56,910
to go over with the target was and it

1620
01:07:00,290 --> 01:06:58,800
was in the conference call after all the

1621
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:00,300
sessions were done the video paper

1622
01:07:05,330 --> 01:07:03,570
everything they had the meeting and they

1623
01:07:07,790 --> 01:07:05,340
had an email then from me that they were

1624
01:07:10,790 --> 01:07:07,800
allowed to open that I sent right before

1625
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:10,800
the conference and that was what it was

1626
01:07:16,790 --> 01:07:14,010
before the conference uh the gal Geyer

1627
01:07:18,590 --> 01:07:16,800
uh he told me he couldn't sleep for two

1628
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:18,600
days he was sweating bullets because

1629
01:07:24,020 --> 01:07:22,050
like what if it wasn't the 911 so if he

1630
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:24,030
said this is like crazy that's all I saw

1631
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:26,250
he said if he was wrong and the target

1632
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:27,690
was something else he had to quit

1633
01:07:32,900 --> 01:07:29,490
remote-viewing it was good

1634
01:07:34,970 --> 01:07:32,910
and apparently I was told that uh that

1635
01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:34,980
Smith had sweat beating up on his

1636
01:07:39,620 --> 01:07:37,110
forehead when they were getting ready to

1637
01:07:42,050 --> 01:07:39,630
open the email that told him to target

1638
01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:42,060
meaning they didn't know and finally

1639
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:44,310
when they saw the 9/11 events was the

1640
01:07:51,350 --> 01:07:46,770
9/11 events it was like apparently a

1641
01:07:52,730 --> 01:07:51,360
huge moment of release of relief when

1642
01:07:54,410 --> 01:07:52,740
they did it that's the true of all of

1643
01:07:56,030 --> 01:07:54,420
our stuff because no one really knows

1644
01:07:57,170 --> 01:07:56,040
that the target is so it's all done and

1645
01:07:58,850 --> 01:07:57,180
then you sort of wonder if you're gonna

1646
01:08:00,290 --> 01:07:58,860
if you're gonna have to quit promote

1647
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:00,300
joining if they're all washed up or

1648
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:03,450
whatever and so they did that no doubt

1649
01:08:07,610 --> 01:08:05,970
the 9/11 events and the JFK were one of

1650
01:08:10,430 --> 01:08:07,620
our premium projects that we sold on

1651
01:08:12,620 --> 01:08:10,440
Vimeo for a number of years but we've

1652
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:12,630
gone to the point where we wanted some

1653
01:08:16,790 --> 01:08:14,130
of those things to be out just for the

1654
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:16,800
historical reference so they had 9/11

1655
01:08:21,260 --> 01:08:19,530
events and the day of ke ones we finally

1656
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:21,270
put out for free on YouTube for people

1657
01:08:26,810 --> 01:08:24,210
to watch we do not monetize them so we

1658
01:08:28,370 --> 01:08:26,820
are no money from that we stopped

1659
01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:28,380
earning money from it from the sale the

1660
01:08:34,670 --> 01:08:32,040
videos on Vimeo so but we thought I just

1661
01:08:36,260 --> 01:08:34,680
felt it was necessary for the public

1662
01:08:38,900 --> 01:08:36,270
record for the stuff to be out there for

1663
01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:38,910
whatever or whatever reason just let it

1664
01:08:44,180 --> 01:08:42,000
be and but the other ones most of the

1665
01:08:46,490 --> 01:08:44,190
other ones we for our major projects we

1666
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:46,500
have a lot of free projects but we also

1667
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:48,810
have the premium projects and so a lot

1668
01:08:54,620 --> 01:08:51,450
of those like Warren heaven and Moses

1669
01:08:57,590 --> 01:08:54,630
beyond Exodus those are for sale on

1670
01:09:00,920 --> 01:08:57,600
Vimeo and they help when people buy

1671
01:09:03,370 --> 01:09:00,930
those ones that really helps us to make

1672
01:09:06,370 --> 01:09:03,380
the next one grief

1673
01:09:07,990 --> 01:09:06,380
okay where shall we go next well you

1674
01:09:10,419 --> 01:09:08,000
have ichi on your screen you want to do

1675
01:09:12,490 --> 01:09:10,429
that it's very sure you're the you're

1676
01:09:14,860 --> 01:09:12,500
the guy it's up to you it's up to you

1677
01:09:16,660 --> 01:09:14,870
I'm actually already covered money we

1678
01:09:19,749 --> 01:09:16,670
covered targets we covered the Farsight

1679
01:09:23,950 --> 01:09:19,759
laying a little bit of RB history so

1680
01:09:26,169 --> 01:09:23,960
Ichi is a good way to round it off ET

1681
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:26,179
let's talk about when people think of

1682
01:09:30,189 --> 01:09:28,730
our site they often think of you know

1683
01:09:32,559 --> 01:09:30,199
extraterrestrial because we have done a

1684
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:32,569
number of extraterrestrial related UFO

1685
01:09:38,349 --> 01:09:36,290
related projects and that's sort of fun

1686
01:09:40,809 --> 01:09:38,359
you know we're way beyond the point of

1687
01:09:43,930 --> 01:09:40,819
wondering whether UFOs and aliens exist

1688
01:09:47,140 --> 01:09:43,940
so since we've done so many targets so

1689
01:09:50,050 --> 01:09:47,150
many projects with easy UFO contact we

1690
01:09:51,340 --> 01:09:50,060
just we just know that they exist ten so

1691
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:51,350
we just sort of said well let's find out

1692
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:52,489
what they're doing what's the whole

1693
01:09:58,180 --> 01:09:55,130
story behind them now you know that in

1694
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:58,190
itself is interesting again in light of

1695
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:00,560
the current you want to call it a wave

1696
01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:02,960
of disclosure but inside the current way

1697
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:05,600
their disclosure because you were out

1698
01:10:11,229 --> 01:10:07,850
there and everyone else is catching up

1699
01:10:15,189 --> 01:10:11,239
so before you know ten years ago twenty

1700
01:10:17,919 --> 01:10:15,199
years ago to talk about ET UFO as

1701
01:10:21,459 --> 01:10:17,929
directly as you did just like this is a

1702
01:10:23,020 --> 01:10:21,469
reality that we face every day through

1703
01:10:24,459 --> 01:10:23,030
the information we're getting back and

1704
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:24,469
to talk about it so matter-of-factly

1705
01:10:31,660 --> 01:10:28,370
back then is astounding because to talk

1706
01:10:35,260 --> 01:10:31,670
about it now isn't as astounding it's

1707
01:10:37,660 --> 01:10:35,270
just much more mainstream so that's it

1708
01:10:38,979 --> 01:10:37,670
but I wonder really when I think of et

1709
01:10:41,020 --> 01:10:38,989
and I think about having the opportunity

1710
01:10:43,149 --> 01:10:41,030
to talk to you dr. Courtney brown I

1711
01:10:47,530 --> 01:10:43,159
jumped to the kind of level three

1712
01:10:49,629 --> 01:10:47,540
discussion which is what is et's role in

1713
01:10:52,180 --> 01:10:49,639
these extended consciousness realms what

1714
01:10:55,060 --> 01:10:52,190
have you found is there a cosmic

1715
01:10:56,379 --> 01:10:55,070
hierarchy ETS angels demons gods how

1716
01:10:58,930 --> 01:10:56,389
does all this stuff fit together is

1717
01:11:01,570 --> 01:10:58,940
there an agenda this is something you've

1718
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:01,580
talked about off and on bits and pieces

1719
01:11:06,820 --> 01:11:03,290
but pull it all together are there

1720
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:06,830
multiple agendas as many people have

1721
01:11:15,340 --> 01:11:11,650
speculated so beyond the reality of ET

1722
01:11:16,979 --> 01:11:15,350
what's the inside story of what's going

1723
01:11:19,190 --> 01:11:16,989
on in a very simple

1724
01:11:23,220 --> 01:11:19,200
it's the old biblical thing again as

1725
01:11:24,930 --> 01:11:23,230
above so belittle there are so many

1726
01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:24,940
groups and they do all their different

1727
01:11:29,820 --> 01:11:27,070
stuff it's they it's just like us down

1728
01:11:31,350 --> 01:11:29,830
here and they all had their special

1729
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:31,360
interests or private interests they have

1730
01:11:36,209 --> 01:11:34,330
groups did the group together it's just

1731
01:11:40,860 --> 01:11:36,219
like we have United Nations I mean it's

1732
01:11:42,420 --> 01:11:40,870
it's they have as above so below and in

1733
01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:42,430
terms of confusion just like there's

1734
01:11:48,300 --> 01:11:44,800
confusion down below there's confusion

1735
01:11:50,700 --> 01:11:48,310
up above so if you want to know what the

1736
01:11:53,610 --> 01:11:50,710
ETS are like just look at the planet

1737
01:11:55,170 --> 01:11:53,620
Earth that's what they're like there's

1738
01:11:57,630 --> 01:11:55,180
all types of groups and all types of

1739
01:11:59,970 --> 01:11:57,640
things going on now they all have their

1740
01:12:01,620 --> 01:11:59,980
own special interests there are some

1741
01:12:04,020 --> 01:12:01,630
groups that want to just be altruistic

1742
01:12:06,090 --> 01:12:04,030
and help humanity and so on like that

1743
01:12:08,970 --> 01:12:06,100
other groups have their own special

1744
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:08,980
interests for themselves and that

1745
01:12:14,670 --> 01:12:12,370
they're pursuing their own stuff so what

1746
01:12:16,590 --> 01:12:14,680
we found is that it's very difficult and

1747
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:16,600
possible it's just not worth it to try

1748
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:18,880
to convince everybody that there are 80

1749
01:12:26,910 --> 01:12:22,930
so what we found is that many groups

1750
01:12:28,340 --> 01:12:26,920
even in the paranormal community they

1751
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:28,350
simply don't want to talk about

1752
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:30,400
extraterrestrials way we talk about them

1753
01:12:37,380 --> 01:12:34,810
and they want instead to hedge their

1754
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:37,390
discussions so that they sounds

1755
01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:40,480
scientific so that they sounds like

1756
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:43,510
they're making very marginal statements

1757
01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:46,480
that are just a little bit off of what

1758
01:12:50,459 --> 01:12:49,030
mainstream science says so they surround

1759
01:12:52,110 --> 01:12:50,469
it with a lot of statistics they

1760
01:12:53,940 --> 01:12:52,120
surround it with a mind you I don't mind

1761
01:12:56,190 --> 01:12:53,950
statistics I teach statistics at the

1762
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:56,200
University that's what I do for a living

1763
01:12:59,760 --> 01:12:57,760
it's a mathematical models that's what I

1764
01:13:02,370 --> 01:12:59,770
do for a living so I'm not opposed to

1765
01:13:04,140 --> 01:13:02,380
math or statistics but these there's a

1766
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:04,150
lot of people in the paranormal field

1767
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:09,370
who who fill their discussions with very

1768
01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:11,530
scientific sounding texts that almost

1769
01:13:20,150 --> 01:13:15,280
nobody reads and very large quantities

1770
01:13:24,150 --> 01:13:20,160
of numbers and the contributions are

1771
01:13:29,070 --> 01:13:24,160
marginal in my opinion so they are

1772
01:13:30,509 --> 01:13:29,080
afraid of talking about just UFOs 80s

1773
01:13:33,660 --> 01:13:30,519
extraterrestrials

1774
01:13:36,379 --> 01:13:33,670
you can see a paper the others that's

1775
01:13:41,609 --> 01:13:36,389
published in a journal that talks about

1776
01:13:44,430 --> 01:13:41,619
the study of a UFO photograph and they

1777
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:44,440
look at the light as it was diffracted

1778
01:13:49,319 --> 01:13:47,050
and the different angles under certain

1779
01:13:51,839 --> 01:13:49,329
things examining of life could relate

1780
01:13:53,879 --> 01:13:51,849
means something this way or that way and

1781
01:13:56,700 --> 01:13:53,889
they look at the different lensing of

1782
01:13:58,620 --> 01:13:56,710
the light for heaven's sakes it's a it's

1783
01:14:00,209 --> 01:13:58,630
a it's a craft and like who's in the

1784
01:14:02,129 --> 01:14:00,219
craft and like where is it going and

1785
01:14:03,359 --> 01:14:02,139
what's happening and they're talking

1786
01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:03,369
about the light this plane that would

1787
01:14:06,299 --> 01:14:04,960
and at the end of the article you don't

1788
01:14:08,850 --> 01:14:06,309
even realize that they're talking about

1789
01:14:11,069 --> 01:14:08,860
a spaceship well I stopped we could take

1790
01:14:13,739 --> 01:14:11,079
that one step further it right into the

1791
01:14:15,989 --> 01:14:13,749
et room you know and we've had a

1792
01:14:19,020 --> 01:14:15,999
discussion more frequently on this show

1793
01:14:21,779 --> 01:14:19,030
about the work of the Free Institute ray

1794
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:21,789
Hernandez and that group who's gone out

1795
01:14:26,910 --> 01:14:24,249
did fortunately grit again I'm all for

1796
01:14:29,310 --> 01:14:26,920
statistics I'm all for the proper

1797
01:14:32,339 --> 01:14:29,320
application of the scientific method and

1798
01:14:35,310 --> 01:14:32,349
what Ray's group has done is the first

1799
01:14:37,859 --> 01:14:35,320
academic scientific study of ET contact

1800
01:14:41,489 --> 01:14:37,869
experience and what falls out of that

1801
01:14:43,979 --> 01:14:41,499
again is a lot of statistics 66 percent

1802
01:14:46,379 --> 01:14:43,989
of people found the et contact positive

1803
01:14:50,069 --> 01:14:46,389
healings this number of percent you know

1804
01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:50,079
that but the reason I bring it up is for

1805
01:14:55,979 --> 01:14:52,510
your point again I think we can even get

1806
01:14:58,319 --> 01:14:55,989
lost in those statistics he's done an

1807
01:15:01,649 --> 01:14:58,329
important job in moving us away from the

1808
01:15:03,870 --> 01:15:01,659
evil alien thing but what is the real

1809
01:15:06,270 --> 01:15:03,880
story behind the numbers and what I've

1810
01:15:08,489 --> 01:15:06,280
been interested in doing is juxtaposing

1811
01:15:10,970 --> 01:15:08,499
that with a similar set of numbers and

1812
01:15:13,919 --> 01:15:10,980
data we get back from the near-death

1813
01:15:16,169 --> 01:15:13,929
experience phenomenon and that's that

1814
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:16,179
you know what are those what are those

1815
01:15:20,790 --> 01:15:19,090
numbers look like and yeah but all that

1816
01:15:22,589 --> 01:15:20,800
I want to roll that all into one big

1817
01:15:24,959 --> 01:15:22,599
question because the question I've been

1818
01:15:27,660 --> 01:15:24,969
asking people lately and it's kind of

1819
01:15:31,140 --> 01:15:27,670
tongue-in-cheek but not really is does

1820
01:15:34,859 --> 01:15:31,150
et have a near-death experience does et

1821
01:15:38,250 --> 01:15:34,869
how about life review and see the being

1822
01:15:42,089 --> 01:15:38,260
of God in the hierarchy of the supreme

1823
01:15:44,340 --> 01:15:42,099
consciousness as above so below is there

1824
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:44,350
is there something is there a higher arc

1825
01:15:50,430 --> 01:15:47,110
chuckles structure beyond the planetary

1826
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:50,440
kind of UN Council is there a spiritual

1827
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:53,530
hierarchical structure to the world the

1828
01:15:59,190 --> 01:15:56,410
realm that et is in yeah well actually

1829
01:16:01,650 --> 01:15:59,200
I'm aware of that or uh actually is a

1830
01:16:04,050 --> 01:16:01,660
big book now that research that you just

1831
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:04,060
referred to and that's a little

1832
01:16:09,570 --> 01:16:06,480
different because they're talking about

1833
01:16:11,460 --> 01:16:09,580
experience for people who have reported

1834
01:16:13,290 --> 01:16:11,470
that they have gone through an adult

1835
01:16:15,630 --> 01:16:13,300
abduction experience or a contact

1836
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:15,640
experience in there and they're talking

1837
01:16:21,810 --> 01:16:18,370
about statistics related to how those

1838
01:16:23,010 --> 01:16:21,820
people experience that and that's

1839
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:23,020
different from what I was talking about

1840
01:16:26,340 --> 01:16:24,010
that's actually a very useful

1841
01:16:28,020 --> 01:16:26,350
application of statistics and I that

1842
01:16:30,450 --> 01:16:28,030
research is actually very interesting

1843
01:16:34,110 --> 01:16:30,460
but the other people that are doing

1844
01:16:36,060 --> 01:16:34,120
stuff on a you know sort of a Oh low

1845
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:36,070
marginal level that's heavily couched in

1846
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:38,050
a scientific language jargon and numbers

1847
01:16:43,620 --> 01:16:40,330
their stuff is very important and very

1848
01:16:48,990 --> 01:16:43,630
interesting but it's limited in its

1849
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:49,000
scope and they are very hmm hate to say

1850
01:16:54,690 --> 01:16:51,370
it but it they're very much afraid and

1851
01:16:58,140 --> 01:16:54,700
in my view to to publish anything that's

1852
01:17:01,590 --> 01:16:58,150
really sort of further beyond that type

1853
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:01,600
of framework that they work within for

1854
01:17:04,530 --> 01:17:03,280
fear that the mainstream that they'll be

1855
01:17:06,420 --> 01:17:04,540
giving up their chance for the

1856
01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:06,430
mainstream scientific community to

1857
01:17:11,670 --> 01:17:09,310
accept them so my view is that the

1858
01:17:14,220 --> 01:17:11,680
mainstream scientific community isn't

1859
01:17:17,310 --> 01:17:14,230
worth fighting for in the first place

1860
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:17,320
and the mainstream scientific community

1861
01:17:21,780 --> 01:17:19,330
is not going to accept is not going to

1862
01:17:23,580 --> 01:17:21,790
accept them no matter how how they write

1863
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:23,590
their papers and matter how they couch

1864
01:17:28,350 --> 01:17:25,930
their their data in statistics sometimes

1865
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:28,360
an article comes out Daryl BEM for

1866
01:17:33,420 --> 01:17:31,090
example has done some really amazing

1867
01:17:36,410 --> 01:17:33,430
stuff and he's got his articles

1868
01:17:38,700 --> 01:17:36,420
sometimes published in very mainstream

1869
01:17:40,950 --> 01:17:38,710
psychology journals which is very

1870
01:17:42,750 --> 01:17:40,960
surprising very interesting and he's

1871
01:17:45,060 --> 01:17:42,760
sort of an exception that he's got some

1872
01:17:47,610 --> 01:17:45,070
stuff that's really out there but it is

1873
01:17:49,260 --> 01:17:47,620
very interesting at the same time Dean

1874
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:49,270
Radin has also done some really

1875
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:51,760
interesting stuff it's got published in

1876
01:17:57,670 --> 01:17:55,570
good venues but the bulk of the stuff

1877
01:18:00,910 --> 01:17:57,680
that is out there as

1878
01:18:03,370 --> 01:18:00,920
very marginal scope it doesn't go beyond

1879
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:03,380
the boundaries and so I'm not

1880
01:18:07,330 --> 01:18:05,090
criticizing it I'm really not

1881
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:07,340
criticizing I'm really glad it's there

1882
01:18:11,830 --> 01:18:08,930
if it wasn't there if someone would have

1883
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:11,840
to do it it's just that it's not what we

1884
01:18:15,700 --> 01:18:14,090
want to do we don't want to live within

1885
01:18:19,150 --> 01:18:15,710
those boundaries we want to find out the

1886
01:18:23,260 --> 01:18:19,160
larger questions so those people tend to

1887
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:23,270
minimize our contribution although we do

1888
01:18:26,860 --> 01:18:24,770
not minimize their contribution it's

1889
01:18:29,710 --> 01:18:26,870
actually necessary to do it's just not

1890
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:29,720
the way we want to do it if remote

1891
01:18:34,060 --> 01:18:31,370
viewing actually works for heaven's

1892
01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:34,070
sakes a people to learn it trained them

1893
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:35,840
for years and years get them to be good

1894
01:18:39,970 --> 01:18:37,250
at it and then look to see what they

1895
01:18:43,630 --> 01:18:39,980
find out and then put the projects up

1896
01:18:45,670 --> 01:18:43,640
and then builds a video library with

1897
01:18:48,010 --> 01:18:45,680
those projects and then builds that as

1898
01:18:50,290 --> 01:18:48,020
you said that Netflix type things that

1899
01:18:52,180 --> 01:18:50,300
sort of bring it to life and let it just

1900
01:18:55,660 --> 01:18:52,190
change the consciousness of the planet

1901
01:18:58,960 --> 01:18:55,670
just by its existence so that has a role

1902
01:19:00,910 --> 01:18:58,970
to and what it is so it's it's not that

1903
01:19:04,210 --> 01:19:00,920
the people who couch their stuff in

1904
01:19:07,210 --> 01:19:04,220
limited scope but very scientific

1905
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:07,220
wording is got a problem there they

1906
01:19:11,590 --> 01:19:08,930
don't have a problem they just have

1907
01:19:14,890 --> 01:19:11,600
borders around what they do and that's

1908
01:19:17,020 --> 01:19:14,900
okay that's that's good that well it's

1909
01:19:19,420 --> 01:19:17,030
it's not necessarily like okay and I

1910
01:19:20,770 --> 01:19:19,430
understand the distinction though it's

1911
01:19:23,380 --> 01:19:20,780
the way they want to make their

1912
01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:23,390
contribution it's just not good enough

1913
01:19:29,050 --> 01:19:26,000
for what the planet needs right now that

1914
01:19:31,750 --> 01:19:29,060
planet needs a wider spectrum of stuff

1915
01:19:34,780 --> 01:19:31,760
and so we have a different approach to

1916
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:34,790
it and they have their own approach to

1917
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:37,370
it in combination to work out it'll work

1918
01:19:41,020 --> 01:19:39,290
out fine well do you have a different

1919
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:41,030
approach to it amen to that

1920
01:19:44,650 --> 01:19:43,370
and fantastic so glad as you just

1921
01:19:48,340 --> 01:19:44,660
summarized that you're out there doing

1922
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:48,350
it we had our approach only and they

1923
01:19:53,350 --> 01:19:50,810
didn't exist that would be a problem

1924
01:19:55,870 --> 01:19:53,360
yeah they get what you're saying

1925
01:19:58,690 --> 01:19:55,880
but we have to factor into that the the

1926
01:20:01,030 --> 01:19:58,700
angle that not all of that is what we

1927
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:01,040
see I mean some of those shenanigans

1928
01:20:07,630 --> 01:20:04,250
that materialistic consciousness is an

1929
01:20:09,460 --> 01:20:07,640
illusion oh this can't possibly be part

1930
01:20:10,990 --> 01:20:09,470
of that is a social engineering project

1931
01:20:13,090 --> 01:20:11,000
- right

1932
01:20:15,550 --> 01:20:13,100
cuz your whole history of remote viewing

1933
01:20:18,070 --> 01:20:15,560
suggests that or the history of remote

1934
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:18,080
viewing suggests that hey people in the

1935
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:20,090
government whatever that means

1936
01:20:25,090 --> 01:20:22,370
government they knew that these extended

1937
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:25,100
consciousness realms existed 50 years

1938
01:20:30,580 --> 01:20:28,130
ago so they let academia kind of putter

1939
01:20:32,170 --> 01:20:30,590
along and spit out this nonsense is that

1940
01:20:34,690 --> 01:20:32,180
there's no such thing as consciousness

1941
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:34,700
and don't look there and ESP is a joke

1942
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:37,730
ha ha ha and you know anthea gents

1943
01:20:41,950 --> 01:20:39,530
that's not really happening all that so

1944
01:20:43,810 --> 01:20:41,960
they perpetuated that and we can say oh

1945
01:20:46,420 --> 01:20:43,820
well the gosh-darn they were just so

1946
01:20:48,850 --> 01:20:46,430
dumb and stupid or we can say that were

1947
01:20:51,820 --> 01:20:48,860
propped up to kind of tell a particular

1948
01:20:53,950 --> 01:20:51,830
story in the same way that disclosure 50

1949
01:20:55,870 --> 01:20:53,960
years ago was not what it is today and

1950
01:20:58,390 --> 01:20:55,880
it was a different message about Oh

1951
01:21:00,520 --> 01:20:58,400
anyone who says that is tinfoil hat ish

1952
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:00,530
and stuff like that so when we see how

1953
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:03,170
the message changes we can say oh gosh

1954
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:04,850
were the ones out there who made it

1955
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:05,330
happen

1956
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:07,280
or we can say this is all part of a

1957
01:21:10,690 --> 01:21:09,170
social engineering project so what I was

1958
01:21:13,210 --> 01:21:10,700
really doing was jumping two steps

1959
01:21:15,340 --> 01:21:13,220
beyond that great so there's mainstream

1960
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:15,350
epidemia and they let Daryl BEM get out

1961
01:21:19,090 --> 01:21:16,970
there and do a couple papers but we

1962
01:21:21,250 --> 01:21:19,100
reviewed that extensively on this show

1963
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:21,260
and that the blowback from barrel bomb

1964
01:21:25,780 --> 01:21:23,810
was also you know something that most

1965
01:21:27,820 --> 01:21:25,790
people can't endure either so the

1966
01:21:30,430 --> 01:21:27,830
message is sent you don't really want to

1967
01:21:32,230 --> 01:21:30,440
go there if you're an academic but I do

1968
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:32,240
have to kind of push back on one thing

1969
01:21:36,700 --> 01:21:34,850
is that Ray hernandez love good friend

1970
01:21:39,130 --> 01:21:36,710
of the show support image support his

1971
01:21:41,170 --> 01:21:39,140
work financially the best I can but he's

1972
01:21:43,210 --> 01:21:41,180
running into the same traps here when

1973
01:21:44,950 --> 01:21:43,220
you start publishing you know these

1974
01:21:48,220 --> 01:21:44,960
large surveys just like they've done an

1975
01:21:50,770 --> 01:21:48,230
NDE and say 66% of people say this about

1976
01:21:54,820 --> 01:21:50,780
contact experience therefore we can

1977
01:21:56,710 --> 01:21:54,830
conclude that et is this no I don't

1978
01:21:58,570 --> 01:21:56,720
agree I agree with what you said which

1979
01:22:01,240 --> 01:21:58,580
is as above so below we have to look at

1980
01:22:03,220 --> 01:22:01,250
this from a much more broader spiritual

1981
01:22:05,650 --> 01:22:03,230
perspective we have to look at the

1982
01:22:08,530 --> 01:22:05,660
Yogi's we have to one understand that we

1983
01:22:11,170 --> 01:22:08,540
don't understand anything outside of

1984
01:22:14,110 --> 01:22:11,180
this time-space reality and we're just

1985
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:14,120
trying to probe around and admit the

1986
01:22:19,070 --> 01:22:16,610
limits of our knowledge so I think

1987
01:22:20,690 --> 01:22:19,080
there's a lot there the

1988
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:20,700
it that we still need to learn I know

1989
01:22:24,050 --> 01:22:22,290
you don't disagree with that but I do

1990
01:22:25,970 --> 01:22:24,060
want to bring it back around if you want

1991
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:25,980
to comment any that you could but I want

1992
01:22:32,810 --> 01:22:28,410
to bring it back to this question of the

1993
01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:32,820
larger spiritual aspect to this and not

1994
01:22:39,050 --> 01:22:36,030
as a spiritual kind of practitioner but

1995
01:22:42,590 --> 01:22:39,060
as a kind of spiritual scientist if you

1996
01:22:45,530 --> 01:22:42,600
will is there a spiritual hierarchy that

1997
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:45,540
is outside of the materialistic

1998
01:22:49,580 --> 01:22:47,850
hierarchy so in this country we have a

1999
01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:49,590
hierarchy that we can all see and we

2000
01:22:53,300 --> 01:22:51,110
have an economic hierarchy and

2001
01:22:55,100 --> 01:22:53,310
billionaires and the one-percenters and

2002
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:55,110
people love that but then when we move

2003
01:22:57,950 --> 01:22:56,610
over the spiritual realm we say well

2004
01:22:59,590 --> 01:22:57,960
that doesn't really even matter they're

2005
01:23:02,960 --> 01:22:59,600
playing a different game and whatever

2006
01:23:05,630 --> 01:23:02,970
spiritual truth there is isn't

2007
01:23:07,010 --> 01:23:05,640
interested in that game and their indie

2008
01:23:09,530 --> 01:23:07,020
ears when people have a near-death

2009
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:09,540
experience then they're working up to

2010
01:23:15,260 --> 01:23:11,370
this other reality where all that stuff

2011
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:15,270
doesn't matter so the question is where

2012
01:23:23,780 --> 01:23:20,090
is et on these materialistic

2013
01:23:29,660 --> 01:23:23,790
consciousness hierarchy versus spiritual

2014
01:23:32,750 --> 01:23:29,670
yogic Jesus hierarchy well my personal

2015
01:23:34,580 --> 01:23:32,760
view on that after doing all the studies

2016
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:34,590
that we've done and marching forward

2017
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:37,770
into the future with new studies is that

2018
01:23:44,300 --> 01:23:39,840
there is no such thing as a spiritual

2019
01:23:46,250 --> 01:23:44,310
anything there's just life and there's

2020
01:23:50,270 --> 01:23:46,260
physics for why we can't see certain

2021
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:50,280
life and why we can see other life but

2022
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:52,170
since the remote viewing phenomenon

2023
01:23:59,390 --> 01:23:56,010
works and you can perceive across time

2024
01:24:03,580 --> 01:23:59,400
and space and with apparently no time or

2025
01:24:06,740 --> 01:24:03,590
limitations and distance obviously our

2026
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:06,750
consciousness extends beyond the

2027
01:24:11,390 --> 01:24:09,690
physical body so one thing we're

2028
01:24:14,300 --> 01:24:11,400
absolutely certain about is that the

2029
01:24:17,260 --> 01:24:14,310
physical body is just a thing it's just

2030
01:24:21,140 --> 01:24:17,270
a physical thing it's like a car and

2031
01:24:23,420 --> 01:24:21,150
it's okay to buff it up but makeup on

2032
01:24:23,630 --> 01:24:23,430
it's okay to do whatever you want with

2033
01:24:26,060 --> 01:24:23,640
it

2034
01:24:28,130 --> 01:24:26,070
workout they look the muscles you're

2035
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:28,140
just missing by the car it's like taking

2036
01:24:32,939 --> 01:24:30,210
your car and getting a new paint job so

2037
01:24:35,540 --> 01:24:32,949
it's just a thing and

2038
01:24:37,919 --> 01:24:35,550
you have to have that thing in order to

2039
01:24:40,020 --> 01:24:37,929
operate in this realm just like you have

2040
01:24:45,209 --> 01:24:40,030
to have a car in order to drive on the

2041
01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:45,219
road so when people die they opt out of

2042
01:24:49,350 --> 01:24:47,110
the body and then they are the way they

2043
01:24:51,209 --> 01:24:49,360
were before they had the body and they

2044
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:51,219
see different things because of the

2045
01:24:59,070 --> 01:24:54,960
physics of the nature what it you know

2046
01:25:00,840 --> 01:24:59,080
that's at that side of things but they

2047
01:25:03,630 --> 01:25:00,850
say something like there is a spiritual

2048
01:25:06,419 --> 01:25:03,640
thing that's sort of putting a WOW

2049
01:25:09,689 --> 01:25:06,429
factor on just some aspect of life is

2050
01:25:11,790 --> 01:25:09,699
physics involved and why we have our

2051
01:25:12,930 --> 01:25:11,800
physical stuff and there's physics

2052
01:25:16,050 --> 01:25:12,940
involved and why we have our

2053
01:25:19,650 --> 01:25:16,060
non-physical stuff ETS have been an

2054
01:25:21,959 --> 01:25:19,660
ability to travel and blink in and out

2055
01:25:24,390 --> 01:25:21,969
of what we call our physical reality in

2056
01:25:26,189 --> 01:25:24,400
the sense of you see a ship it'll be

2057
01:25:28,290 --> 01:25:26,199
flying through the atmosphere and great

2058
01:25:29,910 --> 01:25:28,300
speed and then suddenly it's all

2059
01:25:31,740 --> 01:25:29,920
freighter and no one can see it blink is

2060
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:31,750
gone and then it appears you know 20

2061
01:25:37,470 --> 01:25:33,850
miles down and it suddenly reappears

2062
01:25:39,540 --> 01:25:37,480
so what they do when they do that just

2063
01:25:41,580 --> 01:25:39,550
like you pop out of your body and you

2064
01:25:43,890 --> 01:25:41,590
can't see the physical person can't see

2065
01:25:47,340 --> 01:25:43,900
the you know the non-physical person

2066
01:25:48,660 --> 01:25:47,350
anymore they have technology that well I

2067
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:48,670
don't want to get too much into the

2068
01:25:52,470 --> 01:25:50,890
physics but technology that sort of

2069
01:25:55,590 --> 01:25:52,480
changes the vibration of the ship

2070
01:25:57,030 --> 01:25:55,600
surrounds it with a quantum signature

2071
01:25:58,380 --> 01:25:57,040
that's a bit different from what it was

2072
01:26:00,180 --> 01:25:58,390
before and suddenly we can't see it

2073
01:26:01,919 --> 01:26:00,190
anymore and radar won't pick it up

2074
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:01,929
anymore the physical reflections of

2075
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:03,489
light doesn't happen so we can't see it

2076
01:26:06,570 --> 01:26:03,850
anymore

2077
01:26:10,919 --> 01:26:06,580
and they have technology that they can

2078
01:26:13,140 --> 01:26:10,929
still see us so when you talk about the

2079
01:26:15,540 --> 01:26:13,150
spiritual realm you're really just

2080
01:26:18,330 --> 01:26:15,550
talking about beings or people or

2081
01:26:21,150 --> 01:26:18,340
subjects or whatever and when you talk

2082
01:26:23,610 --> 01:26:21,160
about religions what you're talking

2083
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:23,620
about is stuff that's happened with

2084
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:27,370
beings people subjects things that have

2085
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:30,370
evolved into being religious constructs

2086
01:26:35,970 --> 01:26:33,610
that we have today but there's nothing

2087
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:35,980
but people subjects and everything so

2088
01:26:41,850 --> 01:26:39,370
what you have is when you have Moses

2089
01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:41,860
beyond Exodus and amazing things seem to

2090
01:26:46,149 --> 01:26:44,320
happen well some group made those

2091
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:46,159
amazing things happen and

2092
01:26:51,270 --> 01:26:48,320
had to compartmentalize it to make it

2093
01:26:53,979 --> 01:26:51,280
sort of understandable so God did it and

2094
01:26:56,259 --> 01:26:53,989
there's just beings out there and they

2095
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:56,269
have stuff that they do and some of them

2096
01:26:59,229 --> 01:26:57,530
like to get involved with us and they

2097
01:27:00,850 --> 01:26:59,239
think if they tweak us this way or tweak

2098
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:00,860
us that way the civilization will evolve

2099
01:27:05,409 --> 01:27:02,449
in a better way at this way or that way

2100
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:05,419
and we put names on those beings and say

2101
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:07,280
this is a god other so-and-so

2102
01:27:12,489 --> 01:27:10,639
so that's what there is hold on because

2103
01:27:14,350 --> 01:27:12,499
there's so much to process there and

2104
01:27:16,299 --> 01:27:14,360
this is right in my swing zone so I

2105
01:27:18,939 --> 01:27:16,309
guess the first question I'd ask is the

2106
01:27:21,850 --> 01:27:18,949
question I ask all skeptics and atheists

2107
01:27:23,859 --> 01:27:21,860
is that is there any meaning to any of

2108
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:23,869
this is there any meaning to the

2109
01:27:32,049 --> 01:27:28,489
universe yeah one thing I've concluded

2110
01:27:34,540 --> 01:27:32,059
or certain is that there is a larger

2111
01:27:36,549 --> 01:27:34,550
being some people may want to call God

2112
01:27:39,370 --> 01:27:36,559
that there is something as larger being

2113
01:27:42,759 --> 01:27:39,380
you might want to call it a different

2114
01:27:45,759 --> 01:27:42,769
name some people call it a hole that is

2115
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:45,769
meaning it's whatever it is it's

2116
01:27:51,399 --> 01:27:49,130
everything that exists and there is no

2117
01:27:54,699 --> 01:27:51,409
such thing as a god that's separate from

2118
01:27:56,319 --> 01:27:54,709
you but basically here is is everything

2119
01:27:59,140 --> 01:27:56,329
that's exists in the universe from a

2120
01:28:02,580 --> 01:27:59,150
rock to a computer monitor to a person

2121
01:28:04,659 --> 01:28:02,590
to an inchworm everything is alive

2122
01:28:07,319 --> 01:28:04,669
absolutely everything nothing that's not

2123
01:28:11,140 --> 01:28:07,329
alive it's all the same phenomenon of

2124
01:28:14,679 --> 01:28:11,150
waveforms that interact and these

2125
01:28:17,319 --> 01:28:14,689
waveforms produce amalgams of things

2126
01:28:19,089 --> 01:28:17,329
that sort of congeal together that we

2127
01:28:21,549 --> 01:28:19,099
see is people and subjects and things

2128
01:28:23,259 --> 01:28:21,559
okay there is a God is there a limit

2129
01:28:25,959 --> 01:28:23,269
explain I mean is there a moral

2130
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:25,969
imperative is there a right and wrong we

2131
01:28:31,929 --> 01:28:29,449
don't know what we do know is that there

2132
01:28:33,729 --> 01:28:31,939
is nothing but energy in the universe

2133
01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:33,739
there's no such thing as matter and

2134
01:28:37,239 --> 01:28:35,209
there's probably no such thing as

2135
01:28:39,669 --> 01:28:37,249
distance that goes against mainstream

2136
01:28:43,899 --> 01:28:39,679
physics I know but physicists have never

2137
01:28:46,299 --> 01:28:43,909
ever ever ever found anything solid if

2138
01:28:48,159 --> 01:28:46,309
you look at your desk you say that solid

2139
01:28:50,199 --> 01:28:48,169
my body looks of it but it's not it's

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01:28:51,669 --> 01:28:50,209
just empty space and molecules you go

2141
01:28:54,009 --> 01:28:51,679
into the molecules there's empty space

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01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:54,019
and atoms you go into a atoms you get

2143
01:28:58,239 --> 01:28:56,570
empty space and subatomic particles you

2144
01:28:59,659 --> 01:28:58,249
go into the subatomic particles you get

2145
01:29:01,429 --> 01:28:59,669
empty space and it

2146
01:29:04,159 --> 01:29:01,439
down the rabbit hole they've never found

2147
01:29:06,500 --> 01:29:04,169
anything that's a solid thing they just

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01:29:08,750 --> 01:29:06,510
find energy and these particles and the

2149
01:29:10,339 --> 01:29:08,760
particles are energy manifestations they

2150
01:29:12,259 --> 01:29:10,349
come out of wave packets just the

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01:29:14,959 --> 01:29:12,269
complicated physics stuff there's

2152
01:29:19,250 --> 01:29:14,969
nothing in the entire universe except

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01:29:23,089 --> 01:29:19,260
energy e equals MC squared energy equals

2154
01:29:24,259 --> 01:29:23,099
a scalar multiple of mass a mass and

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01:29:26,389 --> 01:29:24,269
energy are the same they're just

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01:29:28,759 --> 01:29:26,399
different versions of the same thing so

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01:29:32,569 --> 01:29:28,769
what we have about the entire universe

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01:29:33,889 --> 01:29:32,579
is energy and that includes us and what

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01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:33,899
you might want to call our souls

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01:29:39,350 --> 01:29:36,449
there's nothing existing anywhere in our

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01:29:41,629 --> 01:29:39,360
universe that isn't energy and so what

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01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:41,639
happens is you can say well then if

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01:29:48,799 --> 01:29:46,530
energy is everything then we're thinking

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01:29:51,459 --> 01:29:48,809
and everything sort of coming out of

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01:29:54,739 --> 01:29:51,469
energy so it turns out that in fact

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01:29:58,370 --> 01:29:54,749
there is such a thing as a larger being

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01:30:02,000 --> 01:29:58,380
that's composed of all of this energy

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01:30:04,819 --> 01:30:02,010
and this larger being from the best we

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01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:04,829
can figure it out I'm speculating but

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01:30:10,339 --> 01:30:06,530
from the best that we can figure out

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01:30:14,779 --> 01:30:10,349
this larger being wanted to know what it

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01:30:16,219 --> 01:30:14,789
felt like to be us it it wanted to know

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01:30:17,870 --> 01:30:16,229
what it felt like to live almost an

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01:30:20,270 --> 01:30:17,880
infinite variety of different

2175
01:30:22,580 --> 01:30:20,280
experiences and so it broke itself up

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01:30:24,859 --> 01:30:22,590
into little pieces and the pieces

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01:30:26,389 --> 01:30:24,869
interact and they're called Alex and

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01:30:28,100 --> 01:30:26,399
Courtney and they're called other things

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01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:28,110
and they're called Hillary Clinton and

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01:30:33,500 --> 01:30:30,449
Donald Trump and and it goes on and on

2181
01:30:38,419 --> 01:30:33,510
and on and so these pieces interact

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01:30:40,699 --> 01:30:38,429
among themselves so is there a god well

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01:30:43,370 --> 01:30:40,709
there is a larger being that's alive

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01:30:45,109 --> 01:30:43,380
because we're alive is there a being

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01:30:47,689 --> 01:30:45,119
beyond the larger bang yeah it was if

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01:30:50,029 --> 01:30:47,699
you say Courtney is it possible to speak

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01:30:52,159 --> 01:30:50,039
to God I'd say absolutely I'm doing that

2188
01:30:53,750 --> 01:30:52,169
right now I'll exit you and you're

2189
01:30:56,709 --> 01:30:53,760
talking to me you were all part of that

2190
01:30:59,000 --> 01:30:56,719
larger thing and so everything that's

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01:31:00,919 --> 01:30:59,010
inanimate like a chair or something like

2192
01:31:03,500 --> 01:31:00,929
that is also part of that same energy

2193
01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:03,510
and on some level that we don't

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01:31:07,549 --> 01:31:06,510
understand everything somehow exists as

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01:31:10,189 --> 01:31:07,559
a living thing

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01:31:11,989 --> 01:31:10,199
and I don't know how a don't ask me to

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01:31:13,609 --> 01:31:11,999
explain the consciousness of a desk I

2198
01:31:16,339 --> 01:31:13,619
mean I don't know I don't understand

2199
01:31:19,010 --> 01:31:16,349
but it's all part of the same thing and

2200
01:31:20,780 --> 01:31:19,020
so what we have here is a larger being

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01:31:23,750 --> 01:31:20,790
that we can call all that is another

2202
01:31:26,180 --> 01:31:23,760
real question is what is the game plan

2203
01:31:27,919 --> 01:31:26,190
for this all that is that's one of the

2204
01:31:28,939 --> 01:31:27,929
questions but I want to keep I want to

2205
01:31:31,189 --> 01:31:28,949
keep bringing you back you're the

2206
01:31:33,589 --> 01:31:31,199
science guy you love science I love

2207
01:31:36,830 --> 01:31:33,599
science we just haven't been allowed to

2208
01:31:38,990 --> 01:31:36,840
probe science because they keep it

2209
01:31:43,129 --> 01:31:39,000
spinning on all this stupid stuff that

2210
01:31:45,709 --> 01:31:43,139
is pseudoscience so I take the over 200

2211
01:31:48,010 --> 01:31:45,719
peer-reviewed studies and then dear

2212
01:31:50,629 --> 01:31:48,020
death experience science as being

2213
01:31:53,839 --> 01:31:50,639
significant and important just like I

2214
01:31:55,939 --> 01:31:53,849
take the contact experience science and

2215
01:31:57,500 --> 01:31:55,949
the work that they've done is important

2216
01:32:00,109 --> 01:31:57,510
and I try and merge the true and

2217
01:32:02,830 --> 01:32:00,119
understand the two and I guess I just

2218
01:32:05,930 --> 01:32:02,840
can't step past all that near-death

2219
01:32:08,500 --> 01:32:05,940
experience science one because we

2220
01:32:10,669 --> 01:32:08,510
understand the physiology thereof

2221
01:32:12,140 --> 01:32:10,679
particularly people who've had a cardiac

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01:32:14,540 --> 01:32:12,150
arrest and then have a near-death

2223
01:32:16,310 --> 01:32:14,550
experience so their heart has stopped

2224
01:32:17,540 --> 01:32:16,320
which means that their brain is not

2225
01:32:19,490 --> 01:32:17,550
functioning in a way that would normally

2226
01:32:22,070 --> 01:32:19,500
produce kind of justice and yet they're

2227
01:32:24,379 --> 01:32:22,080
having these experiences in the extended

2228
01:32:26,300 --> 01:32:24,389
consciousness realm now for you you

2229
01:32:27,859 --> 01:32:26,310
might say no big deal we've probed the

2230
01:32:29,780 --> 01:32:27,869
extent to consciousness realms without

2231
01:32:32,629 --> 01:32:29,790
the brain without body we get that that

2232
01:32:34,550 --> 01:32:32,639
exists but I take that and say okay then

2233
01:32:36,979 --> 01:32:34,560
what do we understand about the content

2234
01:32:38,959 --> 01:32:36,989
of those experiences and what they're

2235
01:32:40,669 --> 01:32:38,969
telling us consistently over and over

2236
01:32:42,770 --> 01:32:40,679
again and I interviewed dr. Jeff long

2237
01:32:45,379 --> 01:32:42,780
radiation oncologists compiled the

2238
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:45,389
largest database over 3,000 near-death

2239
01:32:48,620 --> 01:32:47,130
experiences for the New York Times

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01:32:50,540 --> 01:32:48,630
bestselling book and he says Alex

2241
01:32:52,430 --> 01:32:50,550
they're talking about God and he goes

2242
01:32:54,020 --> 01:32:52,440
this is underreported because people

2243
01:32:55,399 --> 01:32:54,030
don't want to deal with it or can't deal

2244
01:32:57,399 --> 01:32:55,409
with it or it doesn't fit into their

2245
01:32:59,930 --> 01:32:57,409
paradigm or like you said it's not

2246
01:33:01,879 --> 01:32:59,940
academically acceptable but this is the

2247
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:01,889
overwhelming experience people have more

2248
01:33:04,790 --> 01:33:03,449
than saying the tunnel or more than

2249
01:33:06,979 --> 01:33:04,800
saying you know all these other things

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01:33:09,229 --> 01:33:06,989
it's God it's the experience of a higher

2251
01:33:11,209 --> 01:33:09,239
being that they understand and associate

2252
01:33:13,550 --> 01:33:11,219
and understand in this kind of I

2253
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:13,560
understand everything way right so in

2254
01:33:16,609 --> 01:33:15,330
these realms then it's like boom

2255
01:33:18,530 --> 01:33:16,619
download of information I know

2256
01:33:20,330 --> 01:33:18,540
everything I know there's a god I know

2257
01:33:22,250 --> 01:33:20,340
there's a hierarchy of beings I know

2258
01:33:24,020 --> 01:33:22,260
there are great beings which you talk

2259
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:24,030
about in some of your videos you know

2260
01:33:27,260 --> 01:33:26,489
great beings the Yogi's the Masters the

2261
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:27,270
misty

2262
01:33:31,490 --> 01:33:29,610
the Christian mystics or whatever

2263
01:33:33,380 --> 01:33:31,500
religion mystics these are great beings

2264
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:33,390
that seem to be on some kind of

2265
01:33:38,450 --> 01:33:35,970
spiritual hierarchy they always talk

2266
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:38,460
about a moral imperative there is a

2267
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:41,010
right and wrong you will judge yourself

2268
01:33:45,740 --> 01:33:43,410
based on your deeds and you will know as

2269
01:33:48,260 --> 01:33:45,750
you know down here you know what's right

2270
01:33:49,700 --> 01:33:48,270
and wrong and up there you will know

2271
01:33:51,530 --> 01:33:49,710
what's right and wrong and this is not a

2272
01:33:54,440 --> 01:33:51,540
religious kind of thing because there's

2273
01:33:55,220 --> 01:33:54,450
not some big mean God on a cloud who's

2274
01:33:57,500 --> 01:33:55,230
judging you

2275
01:34:00,590 --> 01:33:57,510
it is a soul journey you judging

2276
01:34:02,090 --> 01:34:00,600
yourself kind of stuff but this data to

2277
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:02,100
me and I call it data because that's

2278
01:34:07,910 --> 01:34:04,770
what it is it seems to be an inescapable

2279
01:34:11,060 --> 01:34:07,920
part of what we're talking about so I

2280
01:34:13,910 --> 01:34:11,070
gotta push you there the blob of

2281
01:34:16,220 --> 01:34:13,920
consciousness thing it's all just life I

2282
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:16,230
think we know more than that at this

2283
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:18,210
point but I'm not sure you quite agree

2284
01:34:24,470 --> 01:34:21,330
with me well it's a good point to wrap

2285
01:34:26,570 --> 01:34:24,480
up the interview with because it tells

2286
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:26,580
you where we don't know things so Alex

2287
01:34:31,340 --> 01:34:29,130
let me end the interview by saying we

2288
01:34:33,020 --> 01:34:31,350
don't know the answers today and that

2289
01:34:35,140 --> 01:34:33,030
there are other people that have their

2290
01:34:37,940 --> 01:34:35,150
views of what they think is going on and

2291
01:34:41,450 --> 01:34:37,950
they may be right and they may be wrong

2292
01:34:44,480 --> 01:34:41,460
but we're gonna plead on flooding along

2293
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:44,490
with what we do at far say until we film

2294
01:34:50,270 --> 01:34:47,610
in as many of the blanks as possible but

2295
01:34:53,660 --> 01:34:50,280
the questions that you just asked are

2296
01:34:56,930 --> 01:34:53,670
the ultimate questions so in terms of my

2297
01:35:00,110 --> 01:34:56,940
own interest I'm sort of wondering why

2298
01:35:02,450 --> 01:35:00,120
this being that's all it is broke itself

2299
01:35:04,850 --> 01:35:02,460
up into pieces and like what is the game

2300
01:35:06,770 --> 01:35:04,860
plan what is the ultimate thing and I'm

2301
01:35:09,050 --> 01:35:06,780
interested if that being ever found

2302
01:35:11,420 --> 01:35:09,060
another being like itself and I'm

2303
01:35:13,460 --> 01:35:11,430
interested in knowing if it broke itself

2304
01:35:16,100 --> 01:35:13,470
up into pieces because it experienced

2305
01:35:18,100 --> 01:35:16,110
pain I mean we just don't know the

2306
01:35:20,210 --> 01:35:18,110
answers to these things and the answers

2307
01:35:21,950 --> 01:35:20,220
to the questions that you just raised

2308
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:21,960
are just as interesting and that's why

2309
01:35:25,430 --> 01:35:23,010
it's so interesting to have so many

2310
01:35:27,940 --> 01:35:25,440
people raise these questions and write

2311
01:35:30,380 --> 01:35:27,950
these valuable books about this subject

2312
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:30,390
we don't know and there's more that we

2313
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:32,130
don't know than we do know

2314
01:35:37,430 --> 01:35:34,650
awesome well again folks our guest has

2315
01:35:39,950 --> 01:35:37,440
been dr. Courtney Brown you'll find his

2316
01:35:41,090 --> 01:35:39,960
just incredible work at the Farsight

2317
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:41,100
Institute

2318
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:43,770
please do watch his videos so many of

2319
01:35:48,710 --> 01:35:46,050
them are now available for free that he

2320
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:48,720
used to sell by the ones that he sells

2321
01:35:52,340 --> 01:35:50,730
as well because as he said it's not the

2322
01:35:54,890 --> 01:35:52,350
major part of his income but it does

2323
01:35:57,260 --> 01:35:54,900
help if you're interested in the

2324
01:36:00,290 --> 01:35:57,270
protocol and science of this pick up his

2325
01:36:02,690 --> 01:36:00,300
book remote viewing the science and

2326
01:36:04,700 --> 01:36:02,700
theory of non-physical perception it'll

2327
01:36:07,730 --> 01:36:04,710
answer a lot of those kind of background

2328
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:07,740
questions dr. Brown it has been an

2329
01:36:12,470 --> 01:36:10,410
absolute delight having you on and I

2330
01:36:14,330 --> 01:36:12,480
appreciate you willing to go for all

2331
01:36:16,700 --> 01:36:14,340
these different areas that we took you

2332
01:36:19,220 --> 01:36:16,710
in best of luck with all your work and

2333
01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:19,230
thanks again so much for joining me Alex

2334
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:20,880
it's been a great pleasure is a very

2335
01:36:25,250 --> 01:36:23,370
interesting interview and I had fun I

2336
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:25,260
had fun doing it one nice thing the

2337
01:36:30,230 --> 01:36:26,730
website for those who want to know is

2338
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:30,240
far site if they are s IG HT dot org o

2339
01:36:35,030 --> 01:36:32,370
RG that likes it then great thanks so

2340
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:35,040
much thanks again to Courtney Brown for

2341
01:36:39,380 --> 01:36:37,170
joining me today on skeptic oh I guess I

2342
01:36:42,230 --> 01:36:39,390
tee up one question from this interview

2343
01:36:45,590 --> 01:36:42,240
and it's really the only question do you

2344
01:36:48,020 --> 01:36:45,600
think remote viewing is real I mean all

2345
01:36:50,150 --> 01:36:48,030
the the best evidence we have suggests

2346
01:36:51,710 --> 01:36:50,160
that it is everywhere we've looked at it

2347
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:51,720
and you can go look at the science

2348
01:36:57,260 --> 01:36:54,570
suggest that something is happening but

2349
01:37:00,950 --> 01:36:57,270
it's just hard to fully embrace that we

2350
01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:00,960
can really look into the past let alone

2351
01:37:04,730 --> 01:37:02,490
look into the future which is really

2352
01:37:05,540 --> 01:37:04,740
seems strange to me I think there's

2353
01:37:10,340 --> 01:37:05,550
something there

2354
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:10,350
I'm just not always 100% sure of the

2355
01:37:13,790 --> 01:37:11,970
information we're getting back and the

2356
01:37:15,430 --> 01:37:13,800
filters that are being plot applied and

2357
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:15,440
the overlays that are being applied not

2358
01:37:20,630 --> 01:37:18,930
consciously but just I just have my

2359
01:37:23,180 --> 01:37:20,640
questions how about you what do you

2360
01:37:25,340 --> 01:37:23,190
think love to hear your thoughts comment

2361
01:37:27,260 --> 01:37:25,350
here if you're on youtube jump over to

2362
01:37:29,810 --> 01:37:27,270
the skeptical form or I like to hang out

2363
01:37:31,670 --> 01:37:29,820
and talk to people but let me know your

2364
01:37:33,140 --> 01:37:31,680
thoughts let me know if you enjoyed the

2365
01:37:35,210 --> 01:37:33,150
show who you'd like to see on the show

2366
01:37:36,620 --> 01:37:35,220
be warned that I'll probably ask you to

2367
01:37:39,110 --> 01:37:36,630
invite that person on the show but that

2368
01:37:41,330 --> 01:37:39,120
notwithstanding please do connect

2369
01:37:43,310 --> 01:37:41,340
interact I always say that I I just love

2370
01:37:46,790 --> 01:37:43,320
to hear from people in here what'd you

2371
01:37:48,380 --> 01:37:46,800
think of this little skeptical journey

2372
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:48,390
that I'm on be sure to check out the

2373
01:37:53,570 --> 01:37:51,290
website skeptic Oh calm I have over 400

2374
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:53,580
interviews they're a lot more than in

2375
01:37:57,770 --> 01:37:55,050
then on YouTube I'm just

2376
01:38:00,109 --> 01:37:57,780
new to YouTube but I'd like to get more

2377
01:38:01,729 --> 01:38:00,119
involved with YouTube like to connect

2378
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:01,739
with more people on YouTube so that's

2379
01:38:06,770 --> 01:38:03,090
definitely out there if you have any

2380
01:38:08,450 --> 01:38:06,780
suggestions or ideas do let me know many

2381
01:38:11,270 --> 01:38:08,460
interviews coming up stick around for